[swannodette]

Not sure why you're getting downvoted. I've noticed that the Hacker News trolls really come out of the woodwork on Apple related submissions: in terms of the submission, senseless upvoting/downvoting and gradeschool level utterances. I suppose the general quality of the thoughtful submission/discussion on HN has to be offset by something.

[louismg]

I don't even see the option to downvote. Maybe I have to be more of a vet to get that privilege. I appreciate all discussion here, especially that which challenges my assumptions.

[runevault]

Downvote requires ~200 karma, or did when I got it a month or so ago.