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by anigbrowl 3357 days ago
Yours and new in the sense of what you're asserting in this thread. I'm just being poetic, don't be so literal.

But good luck having a particularly big advantage in a fight against most fellow adults of your species without using society to get there.

This sounds like a roundabout way of restating the libertarian trope about the state having a monopoly on violence. Look, let me just ask you directly: how much experience you have of real violence? Have you ever fought for your life, or put it in serious jeopardy? I don't mean an everyday bad situation, I mean one where you were genuinely on your own with no prospect of assistance.

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> I mean one where you were genuinely on your own with no prospect of assistance.

Where I had no prospect of assistance and my opponent had no prospect of assistance and there were no weapons created by society? Because I'm not trying to make an argument about ordered society vs. anarchic society. I'm talking about a situation where there are absolutely no societal interactions at all wrt ownership. And I've certainly never been in a fight like that. Or a non-fight like that.

I feel like you've done a good job of demonstrating that some forms of society will ruin ownership. But that's not the same thing as a total lack of social constructs.