[Dylan16807]

> I mean one where you were genuinely on your own with no prospect of assistance.

Where I had no prospect of assistance and my opponent had no prospect of assistance and there were no weapons created by society? Because I'm not trying to make an argument about ordered society vs. anarchic society. I'm talking about a situation where there are absolutely no societal interactions at all wrt ownership. And I've certainly never been in a fight like that. Or a non-fight like that.

I feel like you've done a good job of demonstrating that some forms of society will ruin ownership. But that's not the same thing as a total lack of social constructs.