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by galacticpony 3375 days ago
Like you said, this is all theoretical. You can reach "the whole world" with the right browser. At that point, you might as well ship an Electron app.

But that's not even the point of my question. What I actually meant is: Where is the benefit for the user? I wouldn't want to use applications in-browser, unless there's some real value in that. For everything else, I strongly prefer a "native" application.
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Scirra_Tom 3375 days ago
What other game dev tools can a user on a Chromebook use? Or an Android device?

Another thing, it enables us to rapidly iterate and deploy through one code base. Maintaining code bases for multiple platforms will be like a ball and chain on our feet. End user will get a better product.

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Razengan 3375 days ago
End users don't get a better product just because you don't want a ball and chain on your feet.

Apps wrapped in a browser are blatantly clunky and feel out of place from the OS compared to something using native controls, not to mention consuming more resources and battery. [0]

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13940014

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Scirra_Tom 3375 days ago
Have you tried Construct 3? The feedback we're getting (some in this thread) is that it's very responsive. We're getting feedback on social media that people are forgetting sometimes they are using it in a browser. Making it feel as performant as possible has always been the #1 goal. Browser apps have a bad rep because there are a lot of badly written ones out there.

What specific parts of Construct 3 do you feel are clunky?

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Razengan 3374 days ago
Sorry, I cannot yet give feedback on Construct 3's quality as a game development tool (though it looks promising in that regard) but being a web app, after just a few minutes with it I am faced by too many inconsistencies and annoyances that just. would. not. happen. in a native app.

Menus, panels, windows, controls, fonts, fullscreen support, accessibility..too many to list, and WHY do I get the ugly red X button on the right corner when I'm on a Mac?? Why do you force me to use Windows UI paradigms, after making such a big deal about web apps = yay portability?

The reality remains that for now and the foreseeable future: Users do NOT, CAN not, get the best possible experience unless you're willing to write and maintain native apps.

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Razengan 3375 days ago
I didn't realize you were associated with Construct 3. I'll try it and let you know!
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galacticpony 3375 days ago
> What other game dev tools can a user on a Chromebook use? Or an Android device?

Well, you're kinda making a point for me there. Why would a game developer use a Chromebook or an Android device?

The second point applies more or less to an Electron app, too.

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Scirra_Tom 3375 days ago
> Why would a game developer use a Chromebook or an Android device?

Because they are usually a lot cheaper and more accessible worldwide.

As an example, a market we've identified is educational in US, there's millions of Chromebooks out there gathering dust. If you are an educational user, this could open a lot of doors.

> The second point applies more or less to an Electron app, too.

Yes, we are planning on distributing desktop builds via Electron. First phase is in browser only as there's a little bit more to prepare before we can release downloadable builds. Is that what you mean?

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galacticpony 3375 days ago
Yes, it is. Fair points, good luck!
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