May be not for many people here on HN but for very large number of engineers job opportunity Google/Amzn/MS/FB etc are once in a lifetime type. I have not met people in my circles who would balk at interview process there.
for very large number of engineers job opportunity Google/Amzn/MS/FB etc are once in a lifetime type
Meh. Being a developer is being a developer. Not to say that certain specific companies don't sometimes have specific challenges or perks that would be of unique interest to somebody, but by and large, there's no real reason to think if Google/Facebook/Amazon/$anybody_else as a "dream job."
I used to think that way, and after working at two of my "dream job" companies, I've realized that it's pretty never what it's cracked up to be.
Really, the world is SO much bigger than just GoogBookHooSoftCart... I'd encourage people to NOT put those companies on any kind of pedestal.
Your best opportunity as a young engineer is always with a startup with smart leadership. You'll get to do far more and learn far more. Google/Amazon/FB/MS etc are full of smart people and offer a more 9-5 type job, but you will find it much harder to do interesting things.
When I graduated, Google/Amazon/FB/MS, I knew people were smart and the job would be okay at the very least. How should I have gone about figuring out which ones are "a startup with smart leadership". I remember being overwhelmed by everyone, everyone came across as smart.
So I counter your advice by saying the best opportunity for a young engineer is likely a large company that is well-known for having generally smart people. At least I learned what I wanted and didn't in the rest of my career.
Interviews are a two way street. For most companies you should be able to talk to the hiring manager and other developers that you would be working with. Ask yourself whether as a junior developer if you will be able to learn from them. This includes technical skills, soft skills, and personality.
From my own experience I interviewed with a small company right out of school where I would have been the second or third developer (I forget now). One reason I did not pursue it is that I seemed to know more about development best practices than their existing developers; for example they did not use source control at all. While I would have had the opportunity to make a big impact on the product, I don't believe I would have grown much.
From my experience, either your profile is deemed interesting and you'll get contacted by these companies from time to time (Amazon being the most aggressive) or they'll never get back to you, even if you try pretty hard.
There isn't really a "once in a lifetime" email from a recruiter. Once you interviewed with them you'll have plenty of opportunities to interview again.
Meh. Being a developer is being a developer. Not to say that certain specific companies don't sometimes have specific challenges or perks that would be of unique interest to somebody, but by and large, there's no real reason to think if Google/Facebook/Amazon/$anybody_else as a "dream job."
I used to think that way, and after working at two of my "dream job" companies, I've realized that it's pretty never what it's cracked up to be.
Really, the world is SO much bigger than just GoogBookHooSoftCart... I'd encourage people to NOT put those companies on any kind of pedestal.