[hoke_t]

How is this "surely" the simplest answer? And if it is, since when is the simplest answer the true one?

[flukus]

> How is this "surely" the simplest answer? And if it is, since when is the simplest answer the true one?

Because it doesn't involve the assumption that an all powerful being exists.

[DougN7]

So you surely believe the idea we're living in a simulation of some sort is complete bunk?

[flukus]

For now, yes. Neither theory explains anything and both involve the invention of a higher order and have the same prime mover problem.

[learc83]

Any attempt to explain the existence of the universe has a prime mover problem. Either way causality has either been violated, or causality is meaningless outside the confines of the universe.

[redial]

And none have been proven, so why force it?

[learc83]

None will ever be proven. Any attempts to describe what happened before the first moments of the universe are inherently religion or philosophy not science.