[ThomPete]

I think the point is that facts (whether on TV or not) didn't use to matter more than they do today.

[croon]

So you are claiming that no one cared about the Clinton scandal in the 90s?

Because no one sure didn't seem to care about the numerous Trump ones.

[mcguire]

Democrats surely didn't. And the prosecution side was pretty sketchy in its own right.

[ThomPete]

No I am claiming the opposite. That people care as much today as they did back in the 90s.

[croon]

I... can't say anything other than:

Apparently not.

[ThomPete]

I would love for you to substantiate that into something meaningful.

So by all means. Prove me wrong.

[croon]

He won? That is very quantifiable. Despite on 69% of statements lying according to politifact.

I would love for you to show me how people cared as much about truth now.

[ThomPete]

This is exactly where you are going wrong and I believe not really understand what politics is all about.

People didn't vote on Trump because of those things that politfact measured. There weren't watching the debates to figure out who was the most well argued person based on some basic idea of their rhetorical skills.

They voted on trump for all the things that Politifacts didn't measure but which matter to people and on those he was not lying.

Also Hillary won the popular vote so even on that account she won and he didn't.

Nothing new here.