[mc32]

As jobs are automated away and our own unskilled labor force finds it harder to find any job, there will be more concern about it.

All the feds have to do is enforce e-verify. If anything Trumps win likely signifies distress from the working class. If the Dems dig in their heals and cater more to non citizens than they do their own citizens, I'm afraid they may lose in the next election again.

[pcwalton]

> All the feds have to do is enforce e-verify.

No, that is plainly not sufficient, which is obvious because many states already do this. Unless by "enforce E-Verify" you mean something far more drastic.

[mc32]

It means you fine people or firms hiring people who don't have work documents. No excuses. Forged? They get fined and pay for the ticket back to home country of person using forged docs.

[postcarnival]

> If the Dems dig in their heals and cater more to non citizens than they do their own citizens, I'm afraid they may lose in the next election again.

This is precisely why Trump won more than any reason. He made an appeal to the most important group in America, the middle class, and they agreed with him.

[mc32]

I'm not sure Trump has it in him, but if he did and courted the black working class the right way, I think he could start winning them over from the Dems. But he has to be serious about creating jobs for them, it means raising the min wage to $15 and not allowing undocs to undercut citizen workers.

Trump should learn one thing. Black families like jobs. They'll vote for jobs. They also want, if not always like the police but jobs would go a long way to smoothing things over, as with any pop.

[postcarnival]

agree, I'm optimistic, he may be the best President ever...

[macrael]

How do you feel about this: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/01/us/politics/trumps-off-the...

[rtpg]

he lost the popular vote, and only won it within income brackets above $60k+.

He won because everyone voted along party lines + similar turnout to 2000 (Dem marginally above Rep turnout). All other narratives do not match the actual results.

[tedunangst]

How does that explain winning states like PA, which voted for Gore in 2000 by 4%?

[tptacek]

White voters in PA that voted for Obama last cycle were 2-3x more likely to stay home than to vote against HRC.

[tedunangst]

That's a tough stat to parse. Where did you find that?

Sounds contradictory to http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/15/upshot/how-did-trump-win-o... for instance, but that's a bit older. Maybe I missed something.

[tptacek]

Put more simply: Trump didn't convert Democrat "white working class" voters in PA, so much as they abstained from the election altogether. The middle class didn't vote Trump in; they sat the whole thing out.