[rtpg]

he lost the popular vote, and only won it within income brackets above $60k+.

He won because everyone voted along party lines + similar turnout to 2000 (Dem marginally above Rep turnout). All other narratives do not match the actual results.

[tedunangst]

How does that explain winning states like PA, which voted for Gore in 2000 by 4%?

[tptacek]

White voters in PA that voted for Obama last cycle were 2-3x more likely to stay home than to vote against HRC.

[tedunangst]

That's a tough stat to parse. Where did you find that?

Sounds contradictory to http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/15/upshot/how-did-trump-win-o... for instance, but that's a bit older. Maybe I missed something.

[tptacek]

Put more simply: Trump didn't convert Democrat "white working class" voters in PA, so much as they abstained from the election altogether. The middle class didn't vote Trump in; they sat the whole thing out.

[mc32]

(Some) Dems reps in W. Pa. while possibly mistaken have said differently. They mentioned people switching party reg[1] among other things.

[1]http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/10/12/nearly-100000-penn...

[tedunangst]

Trump got way more votes than Romney did, nearly as many as Obama 2012, despite considerably more third party votes. Overall turnout was higher than 2012 too.

So theory is Trump mobilized a ton of voters who sat out in 2012?

[postcarnival]

this made me think of you http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/12/03/im-democrat-and-im...

[postcarnival]

sorry but this is so inaccurate... this thinking is what will prevent the democrats from winning for the next decade..

[tptacek]

Do go on.