[TeMPOraL]

Congratulations, you've just perfectly proven the GP's point.

This kind of reaction is what makes it forbidden for white westerners "to cultivate, maintain, and respect" their own culture. This kind of reaction, multiplied milionfold via media - both social and traditional alike - which can sometimes lead you to lose your job, or home.

I get it - mistakes were made, some people in the past got trampled in order for the West to get where it is. We can, and should, absolutely talk about it[0]. But living our lives in despair over the "privilege"? Feeling constantly guilty for being born? That's an overreaction.

Frankly, all that privilege talk seems to be just an attempt to guilt-trip the west into self-destructing.

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[0] - I'm talking pretty recent times; if you want to go back to the beginnings, then each culture has humongous amounts of blood on its hands.

[grzm]

"which can sometimes lead you to lose your job, or home."

Can you provide examples of this? I'm not questioning the veracity of the claim. I'm genuinely curious.

[TeMPOraL]

From the top of my head:

- A Nobel Prize laureate made a joke at a conference lunch, it costed him and his wife their jobs. [0]

- Rosetta comet landing twisted from success into abusing one of the lead scientists. [1]

- There was someone about to or after losing his/her home over a Twitter shitstorm, but I can't for life remember who he or she was now :/.

There are many more stories if you read reports on abuse of Twitter, which has turned into the literal "Internet hate machine". Whether or not these stories are completely innocent or maybe the victims lacked taste in their initial deed is a different discussion; my point is, social media became weaponized and used to strike people at random, and the people wielding the weapon are the same who scream evils of west culture patriarchy at you.

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[0] - https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jun/13/tim-hunt-hun...

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Taylor_(scientist)#Shirt_...

[grzm]

I appreciate the links. Thank!

[ricksplat]

> living our lives in despair over the "privilege"? Feeling constantly guilty for being born?

Which is partly my point. Are these the worst things you have to worry about?

You're complaining that you no longer have the right "to cultivate, maintain, and respect" your culture.

But you do. Your culture is imprinted right across the face of the world.

This is your privilege, that you fail to appreciate.

You are like C.S. Lewis' dwarves in the stable https://vox-nova.com/2009/09/20/c-s-lewis-and-the-mind-only-...

Or more classicaly, Plato's cave.

No matter what you have, you will never be happy. All your blessings are curses to you.

and woebetide anybody that dares point that out to you.

[zo1]

>"No matter what you have, you will never be happy. All your blessings are curses to you."

That makes no sense. Most would be happy to be just left alone and not be vilified for being white, male, of a western-culture, non-liberal, having cultural/national pride, etc.

Just leave people alone, that's what people are failing to grasp.

The worst we have to worry about is that this "progressive" non-sense is being washed-into our children at public schools and elsewhere. Through the pervasive hate-men and hate-western privilege media that makes such a narrative pervasive to an extent that the teachers themselves can't help but push it onto their pupils.

[laichzeit0]

> Just leave people alone, that's what people are failing to grasp.

Exactly this. Why even bring up the topic of "privilege"? If someone brings it up, they're trying to illicit some sort of reaction from the other party. Ok I fit the definition of what you use the word "privilege" to refer to. I don't feel like I need to be moved to any sort of action because of this. No apologies, no feeling of shame, no feeling of I need to be charitable, respect someone else's position more or less, no need to gloat about it, etc. Nothing. It's like making the observation that the sky is blue. I can look, agree with you, and that is exactly where it should end. If you expect anything more than that, I outright reject it.

[vacri]

> Through the pervasive hate-men and hate-western privilege media

Have a look at the demographic makeup of your country, then have a look at the demographic makeup of TV hosts. Compare also how many times male vs female anchors have their appearance commented on.

Have a listen to some talkback radio.

Read a variety of local papers.

I thoroughly agree that people want to be left alone, but people also want life to be fair. For example, life is not fair when black people get sentenced to significantly longer terms than whites, for identical crimes.

[Chris2048]

> Are these the worst things you have to worry about?

What else? What other issue are you going to conflate with this one in order to derail it? The "There are starving children in Africa, so all your problems are trivial" argument?

> Your culture is imprinted right across the face of the world

As previously mentioned, "white" isn't really a simple culture, there are many white cultures. If you can be specific by what you mean by culture in this instance?

> woebetide anybody that dares point that out to you.

generalization. You don't know anything about that poster, other than their interactions with you specifically. Your dismissing specific problems in your own arguments as just being general disagree-ability in you opponents.