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by another_account 3552 days ago
And the consistent hours and hours of hard work in the gym. Day in, day out. A lot of which was before he was a millionaire.

Im also pretty sure he does most of his own cooking. The current Mr Olympia, Phil Heath, certainly does.

Diet > Training > Meal timing / cycling etc > Drugs.
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whamlastxmas 3552 days ago
This comment and your other sound like you think drugs are not a big part of the equation, which is totally wrong.

You can take PEDs and barely work out at all and eat junk food all day and you'll make more progress than even the best training/diet regime done with the highest intensity. There are studies that show PEDs and not working out at all resulted in more gains than rigorous training without PEDs.

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gthtjtkt 3552 days ago
> Diet > Training > Meal timing / cycling etc > Drugs

Haha, good joke. You should work for a supplement company. They can always use more people peddling that myth to gullible youth with money to burn.

"Train like Phil, eat like Phil, look like Phil! Just ignore the fact that he's taking enough drugs to kill a small horse, that totally doesn't matter and you WILL achieve the same results if you buy our plans!"

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another_account 3552 days ago
Where did I say that?

Diet and years of training when coupled with the top tier genetics will get a person very far. Even with average genetics it will. My comment was in retaliation to how quickly people overlook the years of grind, dedication and hard graft.

Of course the drugs let guys get past their genetic limit but they should be used only when everything else in on point and has been for years. Hence the heirachy in my post. It's not a duality, plenty of grey there.

If it was all drugs the how come idiots like Boston Llyod are not Mr O?

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gthtjtkt 3552 days ago
The Rock looked like he barely lifted prior to becoming famous. You can even find pictures that are clearly post-gyno surgery (clear indication of steroid use) where he still looks more fat than fit.

1. Bostin went overboard with the drugs, but his original transformation proves how easily a good cycle quickly trumps diet + training.

2. Olympia judging is more political than objective. Just look at Sadik's placing in Classic Physique this year if you want crystal clear evidence.

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