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by cantagi 3562 days ago
> "Riot is more than a messaging app"

This said to me "Riot is just a messaging app" and I bounced. I'd recommend changing that tagline to indicate briefly why a user might use Riot instead of Slack or Whatsapp

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Riot is based on Matrix. If you scrolled down, it would tell you that it's got strong crypto, you can run your own servers, it's got really good cross-protocol bridges, and a ton of other stuff. And it's totally free, save the cost of running your own server if you choose to do so.
> it's got really good cross-protocol bridges

With that you mean "a worse IRC bridge than Slack"? Every user and dev of IRC clients and servers I’ve talked to in the past weeks has only complained about Matrix’ bridge.

interesting - what is the precise issue?

The main difference is that Matrix acts effectively as a bouncer, bouncing all the different clients into IRC, rather than a bridge - unlike Slack's bridge which is just a single bot.

We're aware that we haven't enabled membership list syncing into Matrix yet from IRC (due to performance issues on synapse), but otherwise it should be pretty good.

More fact, less FUD please? :)

> interesting - what is the precise issue?

The most complaints are about not working private messages to Matrix users (because the bridge doesn’t join people), about the bridge de-syncing from IRC – and you suddenly having every matrix user thrice in the channel, and similar issues.

General stability, ability to chat with Matrix users as if they were there natively, etc.

Thanks for providing some information. I was curious what the issue was. Although I suppose I'll have to wait a bit longer for a proper response...
As I said, it's not perfect yet. I should have said good support for cross-protocol bridges.
I've been using the Freenode-to-Matrix-bridged Freenode IRC rooms for around a month now and am pretty happy, besides the occasional glitch due to Matrix and its bridges still being in beta.
For me at least, those features would make for a stronger CTA and incentive to use it.
It says all that, right on the main page.

If you had just scrolled down a little bit more...

But if you lose people with information higher in the hierarchy, it doesn't matter what you say after.
Good point. So reorganize the page a bit?
I don't know, honestly I left the page baffled as to what it even is. (I got a better idea from a link to the demo posted here on HN.)

It could benefit from focusing on:

1. Why is this thing for me? 2. What is this thing and how does it address #1?

Both of those, if possible, should be answered in 1-3 short sentences, above the fold.