[kuschku]

Let me just publish articles full of libel and lies claiming you distribute child porn in a country without libel laws.

Let’s see what you do when the first result in Google for your name is such lies.

Or when things you did in your childhood are all Google results about you, and might make you fail to get a job.

The whole point of the Right to be Forgotten is to solve such issues which can’t be solved otherwise.

[extra88]

There are already libel laws to address lies much more thoroughly than making Google's job harder.

So-called right to be forgotten laws are as futile as DRM. I believe culturally we will adapt to the availability of this information. We can change our opinions about whether evidence of poor choices a long time ago means a candidate would be a poor hire. But the information still being available allows us to make more informed choices because maybe those poor choices a long time ago, along with more recent information, is relevant. The candidate knows this evidence exists and can contextualize it and/or compensate for it with evidence of better, more recent choices.

[ddebernardy]

Applying libel laws are very theoretical on the internet. Joe is not going to sue Jack at the other end of the world in practice because of the outsized costs and efforts involved.

[Retr0spectrum]

> in a country without libel laws.

It may be slightly futile, but I do believe it's a step in the right direction.

[int_19h]

Is there a country without libel laws?

Anyway, assuming that there is, that country had made a conscious choice that in its jurisdiction, this is not a thing that they wish to suppress, for whatever reason. If you live in such a country and are unhappy about it, you can either work through its political system to change the law, or leave for a different country.

If you're already in a different country, you can sue for libel in that country, since that's where the damage (to your reputation) occurred.

[kuschku]

If a company in the US puts something on their website about me that’s libel under German law, I still can’t get it pulled.

Yet, if I put up something that’s legal under German law but illegal under US law onto my website, my entire hoster is threatened by the US govt. unless they remove my presence.

The right to be forgotten only gives the EU citizen the power that US citizen already have: to apply their laws globally (despite only in very limited amounts and with careful interpretation – which can’t be said of the US laws)

[int_19h]

That US forces other countries to police their residents for US laws is wrong.

But I don't see how EU doing the same is of any help. Two wrongs never make a right, and especially not when they reinforce each other.