[paulddraper]

> What's the alternative, work at McDonalds and develop no useful skills in the meantime?

Do something useful. (FYI, someone paying you is a strong indicator of "usefulness".)

[lugg]

This attitude is incredibly american.

I'd rather my taxes went to someone trying to build a business than someone that "tries" to get a job only to get fired after a month every time.

[paulddraper]

> This attitude is incredibly american.

As an American, I often fear that responsibility, self-reliance, and self-determinism aren't respected by my countrymen.

So I'm rather heartened to hear that.

[unprepare]

>responsibility, self-reliance, and self-determinism

and you feel that an employee better exemplifies these traits than an entrepreneur?

[paulddraper]

I feel that taxes do not exemplify these traits.

[unprepare]

you feel that 'taxes' dont exemplify those traits?

taxes isnt a living person, so it cannot demonstrate self-reliance/self-determinism.

this doesnt even make any sense

[lugg]

I'm aware its probably not an accurate portrayal, its just the kind of thing the UK/AU/NZ hears a lot from americans and we don't quite understand the narrow minded logic.

While you're right that the doll bludger should "just get a job", you thinking that isn't going to change the fact that they won't.

[detaro]

And if you can't find someone (=clients) paying you, you won't have a business. And if you can't make a case that someone would very likely pay you, they won't approve your plan.

Such programs aren't VC funds, they are a way to get tiny companies off the ground and to legalize under-the-table gigs (which are worse for both worker and state in the long run).