[MicroBerto]

You act like his entire life hasn't been "executing a complex and demanding job"? Running a small business is hard enough, I can't even imagine running an empire.

Trump has been one step ahead of every last person this entire election cycle. It's been fascinating to watch and I'm done doubting him, underestimating him, or second-guessing why he does or says anything. Now I'm simply at the point where I'm just trying to learn from it, because there are lessons for any business owner or public figure inside.

In fact, if he were to win, I'm not even convinced [X] "won't happen".

[mikeash]

It doesn't have to be hard to run an empire badly.

A shell script that just repeats "Sell all assets and invest in SPY" would outperform Trump at running his empire, and it would have the side bonus of not being a crazy asshole.

[MicroBerto]

How many people have you hired in your life?

[mikeash]

How is that remotely relevant?

[MicroBerto]

Clearly it's easy, right?

If you've never give through the experience of hiring good people, you have absolutely no clue how difficult it is.

So convenient to drive from the back seat though, yeah? I never said Trump was "right". I said he's been a step ahead every time, which he has.

But it's easy to trivialize things and call him an asshole because it fits your narrative.

Walk a mile in those shoes and then tell me how simple it is. You have no clue. Empires are not built from shell scripts. If only it were that easy.

[mikeash]

I'm sure it's hard to do well. My point is that Trump hasn't done well. The fact that he built a not particularly successful business empire with inherited money doesn't say much about his skills or smarts.

Hiring good people is hard, for sure. Has Trump ever done it?

[MicroBerto]

I find this line laughable. Everyone seems to think that turning a million into billions is a cakewalk.

Most people wouldn't even know where to begin and would lose their minds during any downturn. The others would buy a small house and whither away savings. The rest would waste it all on idiocy.

If you're running a billion dollar empire and it hasn't burnt to the ground, you can be sure that he's hired good people.

Why don't you go put $1,000,000 in a market simulator and tell me how your "shell scripts" do over the next 20 years.

Given that you haven't answered the original question, I'm guessing that you have hired very few or even zero people ever?

[over]

Being a crazy asshole is Trump's strongest suit. Hatred is a powerful motivator.

[coliveira]

If what you're trying to learn is how to manipulate people, then I agree, he is a master. There is a name for this type of people, they're called con men. Trump is a sales person. He has trained himself to sell anything, and he is just selling a quick solution for people that feel disenfranchise by the current political system.

[MicroBerto]

He is selling exactly what a serious amount of people in this country want. If you don't know that then you don't understand America. Go work in a factory for a year.

[danenania]

What a serious amount of uneducated racist people want.

This has been tried before a number of times in history. It doesn't end well, for the working class or anyone else.

[MicroBerto]

> uneducated racist people

You sorely overestimate anyone's intentions. Nearly all Trump types simply want productive jobs and to be left alone. I know this because I've worked in factories with them (non-Union).

If it's racist to not want to send my job to China, then you really need to check the definition of racism.

And why is it that so many legal immigrants are pro-Trump? Hmmm.....

[coliveira]

Should we try to read intentions beyond what he is literally saying? The defense of Trump is solely based on the idea that he doesn't mean what he says. But this is tantamount to say that he is a liar. If that is the case, how can someone ever trust him? If you need to build on fear and lies to be elected, it is anyone's guess what might be the result.

[MicroBerto]

> the idea that he doesn't mean what he says.

No Trump supporter is saying this at all. Most highly agree on at least one of his major platform issues. If we've learned one thing, it's that he means exactly what he says, and won't back down or apologize. This only makes him stronger.

The days of believing this guy is dumb are over. He has single-handedly changed everything in American politics, and did it while people like you were believing he was a clown. That too, makes him stronger.

[coliveira]

Except that he cannot provide it. Most of his proposals would require to overturn centuries of laws and other American traditions. Promising that is akin to trying to sell the statue of liberty.

[MicroBerto]

Building a border? Forcing existing immigration laws to be upheld?

[coliveira]

I mean simple things like deporting 11 million people, killing families of terrorists, legalizing torture, and closing the US to China imports, just for starters.

[MicroBerto]

> deporting 11 million people

Not impossible. Other Presidents weren't even trying and they removed between 1-2 million.

I don't think you understand the amount of power ICE has if unhandcuffed and fully supported.

Plus, they can come back in legally. With papers. Through the door. What on earth is so hard about that???

> killing families of terrorists

We already do this - not directly, but if we know a family is shielding a high-value target, we will hit the entire building.

> legalizing torture

This is perhaps hyperbole, but wanting to play on a level playing field is not exactly an earth-shattering request. There are ways to intimidate without 'torture'.

> closing the US to China imports

Doubtful, but pushing for tariffs from Congress is within reason and would be supported by a great part of America.