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by starshadowx2 3767 days ago
I'd assume that if @coalescence works somewhere with a Vive devkit, they would most likely have tried a CV1 as comparison.
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So I get downvotes, because you're all assuming rather than directly asking, like I did.

Thanks, HN.

Yeah, you're in the wrong here pretty obviously. you didn't "directly ask", you pretty much just shot down what they said and borderline insulted them.

Really, just reason it out. How many places just have a Vive devkit laying around? You'd specifically need to get one which means they're most likely working on a VR game or software. When you're working on something using new and innovative hardware you're going to check out all the options and competition to make sure you're using the best or most accessible.

I'd say you should take a step back and look over what you've said and consider if it really conveys your meaning well.

I shot them down IF (the most important word in my post) their comparison of the consumer versions of the two most important VR releases is instead a comparison of the consumer version of the Vive, and the DKs of the Rift (or no Rift at all).

I agree, I could have worded my post directly as a question, and if I could edit it, I would.

I'm stunned that you're all allowing coalescence to sit at the table and IMPLY that the Oculus Rift CV1 makes him want to take it off, is not intuitive, and is not rewarding.

> I shot them down...

Yeah, don't do that. It makes you seem like an asshole no matter the context.

> allowing coalescence

That's the thing about opinions. Anyone can have them and they change from person to person.

"it's the first headset that I've not wanted to take off."

You would've been much better off asking if they had tried the CV1 and what they liked/didn't like about it, rather than saying their opinion is uninteresting. It's good that you're starting to recognize that though.

I AM in the wrong that I should have asked. I've explicitly admitted that my wording was wrong.

coalescence IS in the wrong that he impled that the Oculus Rift CV1 is a crappy product, without directly saying it.

If you could go ahead and recognize that second part, it would be nice.

I recognize your opinion and understand what you're saying, but I feel like you're being antagonistic and trying to find a fault that doesn't exist.

@coalescence saying they like the Vive the most does not by default equal that they hate the CV1. You keep trying to say they're implying something whereas I really don't see it that way.

"I've not wanted to take off" can mean that they were engrossed and didn't want to leave, like when you're in a really good game and don't want to stop. It doesn't mean that they didn't like a hypothetical competitor right away, just that it maybe wasn't as spectacular.

In your other comment, this is what I'm talking about: "did it make you want to take it off?"

There was no implication that that was the situation, you've created this in your mind.

I'm going to end here, so reply if you like but as I said before, you should look over your comments and recognize that you're coming across as like an angry conspiracy theorist.

You didn't ask. You told him his opinions were meaningless because you assumed he hadn't tried the Rift. I mean, maybe that's not what you were trying to communicate, but that is 100% what you communicated.