[leereeves]

> Someone is organizing the system to pay the lowest possible wages.

For everyone.

The rest of your comment seems to be about ancient history - what did you mean to say about society today?

[mbrock]

Society today is a product of history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_women%27s_rights_(...

That's the long story of the struggle for justice for women.

You seemed to say that gender injustice could only be perpetrated by some shadowy caricature "someone." I'm saying there is such a someone: the patriarchy.

[leereeves]

And you think the "patriarchy" is paying women as little as possible, but not men?

I think the people who make such decisions pay everyone as little as possible.

[mbrock]

So then we're talking about the gender dynamics of negotiation.

http://www.newyorker.com/science/maria-konnikova/lean-out-th...

[leereeves]

On an individual level, perhaps, but how would individual negotiations explain the difference in pay between whole professions (where most of the pay gap is)?

[mbrock]

It's not really that individual negotiations explain the larger differences. It's more that the problems with individual negotiations are symptomatic of the deeper gender issues.

[leereeves]

That's rather vague and "shadowy".