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by willcanine 3807 days ago
Happy to talk to anyone about our robot! Currently have 51 machines in labs around the world doing things from serial dilutions to Gibson assembly and shipping more every week. Email info@opentrons.com to get in touch
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This is fun to see. I work in this space currently.

Seems to be a potential solution for small academic/independent labs w/o a budget for what you have labeled a "mainframe" system.

However, you can purchase an old simple tecan/hamilton/beckman for under $2K that has more flexibility then this machine (e.g. ebay "beckman 2000" or "Tecan Genesis 200").

The open source software certainly provides good flexibility for the "hacker" types. But a script step on those other platforms provides the same abilities.

Just giving my thoughts. Curious to hear more.

Our main competition really isnt those other robots, its people working by hand. Our user experience and the size, shape, feel of our robot on the bench is just totally different than a Tecan. Our machine appeals to scientists who dont want to become an expert at Tecan Script, spend time looking through used parts websites, and repairing old swiss robots :) Would also argue the flexibility point -- there are trade offs. Our machine can fit in a lot more spaces, can use any type of labware you want, can interface with anything that has an API.

Thanks for your thoughts, would love to talk more if you want!

Will

Can these compete with something like the Hamilton Star? [0]

0. http://www.hamiltoncompany.com/products/automated-liquid-han...

No, we are not competing with Hamilton, Tecan, Cybio, or any of the other companies currently making big lab robots. i think of robots like the Hamilton Star as 'mainframe' machines. They are really great for centralized high-throughput, if you can afford one and have an automation engineer on the team.

The OT-One is aiming to be like a 'PC' rather than a 'mainframe' -- affordable, easy to use, and at a scale manageable by individuals. And with Mix.Bio you can download protocols to run, or design them in your browser. It is a lab robot for day-to-day use replacing manual pipetting.

Fix your website. It is unusable on an iPad. Information quality trumps hipster trendy UI crap any day of the week. This is particularly true if you are actually trying to sell something.

People want information. Lots of it. Pictures and videos. Downloadable PDF's and specifications. They could not care less about these dumb fucking trends that make websites impossible to use.

Sorry. There's just too much of this crap out there. If you understand sales you know this is precisely NOT what your website should be about. Your web developer is costing you sales.

From the HN guidelines "Be civil. Don't say things you wouldn't say in a face-to-face conversation. Avoid gratuitous negativity."

What I mean to say is your comment about a UI that can be improved would have worked without the words 'crap' and 'dumb fucking'.

The words you picked out of context were not aimed at that OP's site.

Profanity is not equivalent to lack of civility. Some of the most well-spoken people have been some of the most profane and brutal in human history. For example, I wonder if Hitler ever cursed in his speeches.

Anyhow, the flowery language was intended to impress upon the owner of this website that there's an urgent need to fix this website because, well, it won't sell very much as it is.

Too many entrepreneurs think selling is done by showing what you make (hardware, software, website). No, it isn't.

I was in that camp twenty-five years ago. I thought I knew how to sell the wonderful hardware I worked so hard to develop. To my credit, I had the good sense to give myself an "F" during a self evaluation of my ability to sell. And that was followed by working hand-in-hand with our first resellers for a full year.

We'd go show the hardware to potential customers and they'd let me do the pitch. After the visit we'd stop at Starbucks for a post-mortem. For the first four to six months they often started with "why the FUCK did you say...".

After a year I got to the point where I could sell our products almost without uttering a word about them during sales visits. I graduated.

Anyhow, from a salesmanship perspective this website is terrible. All it is good for is to mimic current trends in web styling, yet, from a sales perspective it will be horribly ineffective.

When you are trying to sell a product being clever, trendy or sexy seldom works. Having a beautiful woman eat a burger half naked on a pickup truck isn't going to make me want to go to that restaurant. It's a spectacle. It has shock value. I'll probably watch it. But it does nothing to position the product in a useful manner, compel me to learn more and consider buying it.

Building a website loaded with cool and trendy crap is having a website loaded with cool and trendy crap. It is NOT building a website that rocks at salesmanship.

Some of the ugliest ads and websites rock at selling. A/B testing often reveals incredible surprises about how people respond to what they see online.

The OP needs to pay a sales consultant to help them redo the entire thing. It won't be trendy, but it will sell.

It is also almost unusable on chrome/windows. 3d-view just freezes entire browser for 10-15 seconds.
Out of curiosity, how's it broken on the ipad? It renders fine on my phone.
appreciate the input -- what elements are not working on your iPad?
I am away from my iPad on a business trip for a week. I just happen to catch it before I left. I'll try to have a look when I get back and post specifics.

That said, the problem isn't that it doesn't work on the iPad. The problem is that you've managed to build a website using what I call "trendy technologies and look" that is, I am sorry to say, absolutely worthless from a salesmanship perspective.

I can't post a fix-it list here. You would be well served paying a sales consultant who knows your industry to help you redo the entire thing. And I do mean the entire thing.