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by sukulaku 3851 days ago
Hasn't Musk said his long-term goal is to make electric cars even ordinary people can afford?

Weren't the first Macs really expensive too?

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A mac("Apple") was significantly less expensive than a 'high-end' computer at the time. At least thats was the feeling, having talked to my parents about it before.
That's a strawman. The Mac was significantly more expensive than the Apple ][, and the PC etc. Not to mention the various Commodore's etc. Don't even get me started on the Lisa. Just because the Mac was cheaper than a minicomputer or a workstation doesn't mean it wasn't expensive. For the demographic it targeted, it was a very expensive machine. The Mac had an MSRP of $2495 compared to the PC at around $1600.
How was that a strawman?

Also I'm sorry I meant the Apple. To me they are the same computer. I understand historically they are not. I never said it wasn't expensive, even the Apple which MSRP ranged from 1,000$ to 2,000$ was still expensive but seems fairly competitive for the time. Cars are also pretty expensive tho lol. But luxury and sports cars are far outside the price-to-use range of a middle class family. A 'Apple' Computer, at least for my family, was worth it for them at that price range. A 20k car functions just as well as a 100k car, the Apple at 1k was pretty phenomenal for my mother from what she has told me.

-edit- I don't think I really get what your point is?

Apple was an expensive car. Just like Tesla is an expensive car. Work stations are not a car, they are more like a big truck.

Nowadays Apple is an affordable car. Tesla may one day be an affordable car.

Computers were very expensive back then. I don't think Apple was an expensive computer at the time of its launch and part of what was so compelling about it was a personal computer not a work station.

Tesla is an extremely expensive car. Especially if you consider its value-to-price.

The Lisa and the NEXT cube were extremely expensive when introduced. The Thin Mac had 1/8 the ram of the Lisa, as a cost reduction.

And, obviously, different people assign different value to the car. The 97% of owners who'd buy again probably don't agree with you.

> Tesla is an extremely expensive car. Especially if you consider its value-to-price

I'm not sure what you mean with "value-to-price", but aren't pretty much all Tesla owners in love with their cars? They seem to be valued very highly, and considered worth the price.