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by devsquid 3851 days ago
A mac("Apple") was significantly less expensive than a 'high-end' computer at the time. At least thats was the feeling, having talked to my parents about it before.
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That's a strawman. The Mac was significantly more expensive than the Apple ][, and the PC etc. Not to mention the various Commodore's etc. Don't even get me started on the Lisa. Just because the Mac was cheaper than a minicomputer or a workstation doesn't mean it wasn't expensive. For the demographic it targeted, it was a very expensive machine. The Mac had an MSRP of $2495 compared to the PC at around $1600.
How was that a strawman?

Also I'm sorry I meant the Apple. To me they are the same computer. I understand historically they are not. I never said it wasn't expensive, even the Apple which MSRP ranged from 1,000$ to 2,000$ was still expensive but seems fairly competitive for the time. Cars are also pretty expensive tho lol. But luxury and sports cars are far outside the price-to-use range of a middle class family. A 'Apple' Computer, at least for my family, was worth it for them at that price range. A 20k car functions just as well as a 100k car, the Apple at 1k was pretty phenomenal for my mother from what she has told me.

-edit- I don't think I really get what your point is?

Apple was an expensive car. Just like Tesla is an expensive car. Work stations are not a car, they are more like a big truck.

Nowadays Apple is an affordable car. Tesla may one day be an affordable car.

Computers were very expensive back then. I don't think Apple was an expensive computer at the time of its launch and part of what was so compelling about it was a personal computer not a work station.

Tesla is an extremely expensive car. Especially if you consider its value-to-price.

The Lisa and the NEXT cube were extremely expensive when introduced. The Thin Mac had 1/8 the ram of the Lisa, as a cost reduction.

And, obviously, different people assign different value to the car. The 97% of owners who'd buy again probably don't agree with you.

Ok Apple also sold expensive computers. The point remains, Apple was founded on selling computer and bringing the power of computers to middle class 'normal' people.

Tesla was founded on selling cars to a wealthy niche market.

> Tesla is an extremely expensive car. Especially if you consider its value-to-price

I'm not sure what you mean with "value-to-price", but aren't pretty much all Tesla owners in love with their cars? They seem to be valued very highly, and considered worth the price.

Aren't most sports car owners in love with their cars?? I'm sure Tesla's cars are nice luxury vehicles, maybe even "objectively"(lol...) nicer than other sports/luxury cars. I have no clue, never driven, touched, or even seen one. By "worth the price", if you are someone that considers a 60k to 120k car "worth the price" then yes. But personally I would rather not fool myself and admit I have the money and I want something luxurious.

My point is.

They. Are. Not. Within. The. Price. Range. Of. The. Middle. Class...

Apple. Computers. Were.

Particularly if you look at it from a price-to-value standpoint of someone balancing a budget for a car. Luxury, ascetic, and cool-factor do not play a huge roll in that. Maybe they do in your life and then you are most likely either single, upperclass, or bad with money. The first two are ok, expensive luxury vehicles are ok. Am I touching a nerve here?