[lukev]

The author also gives her analysis of the situation, to which you give no credence at all.

In other words, when a woman writes an entire post about an experience: "I perceive sexism at my workplace", your immediate reaction is "your perception is invalid, given the facts!" even though you don't work there and don't know any of the people involved.

Sexism.

I apologize for the confrontational tone, but I am so frustrated by the casual misogyny among otherwise intelligent people on venues like HN.

[exstudent2]

She's casually calling people rapists in her post and you're saying that to not support that is sexist. I don't think there's anything we're going to agree on.

[lukev]

I'm saying that to deliberately undermine and dismiss the experiences of women in our field, in a public forum, is sexist.

This is true regardless of whether you find their rhetoric agreeable or not.

[exstudent2]

Disagreeing with a woman is not sexism. My comments on this article would be the same regardless of the author's gender.

[Mz]

No, disagreeing with a woman is not sexism. The problem is that men readily speak up to disagree with us, rarely speak up to agree, validate, genuinely encourage, etc. When all you hear is disagreement, when that is the only way an entire segment of the population will engage you, it is a real problem.

I am debating flagging this piece. I see no good coming of it and I am frustrated that this stuff gets upvoted and then verbally pissed on when better stuff gets ignored.

[exstudent2]

I'm commenting on this post because her accusations were brash and unfounded (based on her own statements) and I think bashing your current employer on Tumblr is unprofessional. I don't see how it relates to HN other than as a chance to talk about HR issues.

I actually think the company in question handled this really well. It will be interesting to see what they do next though, I would honestly have troubles with this person if I had to go back to work with them after this.

> men readily speak up to disagree with us, rarely speak up to agree, validate, genuinely encourage, etc.

There are men in this very thread stressing the importance of speaking up for women regardless of facts in all public conversation as a political action.

Aside from that, no one should expect anyone else to go to bat for them (and they should expect to get called out on their mistakes). It's the way the world works for men and women.

[Mz]

I see a lot wrong with what you are saying. But I don't see a lot of value in arguing it. If I argue with men here about sexism, I get told that I am "combative" and therefore I am at fault for whatever problems I feel exist (that I experience firsthand). I have flagged this piece. I dislike this entire conversation. And when I submit things that do propose other points of view and are trying to find real solutions, they mostly get ignored.

This is what I submitted today (yes, I wrote it -- not really relevant to why I am aggravated): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10453412

It has one upvote and no comments. Meanwhile, plenty of people are happy to piss and moan about how this woman is Doing It Wrong, upvote this and fill it up with ugly comments.

I would like to see a great deal more focus on how to solve this. This is not it.

Having flagged this piece, I plan to move on. I think this does not help anyone.