[pjc50]

You can also be tagged in other people's posts, which you have to actively remove from photos (and I don't think it's possible to remove name-references in text at all).

Your group of friends is not a representative sample, and neither is mine.

[TeMPOraL]

There's a setting that makes tagging require you verify and accept the post/photo. I.e. when I turn it on, you can type the letters making up my name, but without my explicit consent given on a case-by-case basis, the name won't turn into a link to my profile. Not everyone enables it, but it's not an obscure feature either. Also, some combinations of privacy settings make you disappear from the tagging suggestion lists completely, but I haven't figured out how it works yet.

[pdkl95]

That setting doesn't help if you don't have a facebook account. Putting the responsibility on the named person is just another form of victim blaming.

[TeMPOraL]

I can't tag you if you don't have a Facebook account. What are you proposing? That typing someone's name without their consent should not be allowed? I think that would be seriously infringing on the right to write things.

> Putting the responsibility on the named person is just another form of victim blaming.

Victim blaming is quickly becoming a term for "I don't like how the reality works, so I'll just throw a temper tantrum".

[pdkl95]

> I can't tag you if you don't have a Facebook account.

I have no idea if that's true now. Historically, this was encouraged. I know my name has been added on pictures by my sister, at a minimum. I've never had an account at FB and never will. I'm assuming it is common knowledge on HN that just because you haven't registered an account with facebook doesn't mean your account doesn't exist.[1]

> That typing someone's name without their consent should not be allowed?

Obviously not. This thread is about credit scores, which facebook shouldn't be influencing based on hearsay. The bigger point is that "failure to opt-out" is not consent.

> Victim blaming is quickly becoming a term for "I don't like how the reality works, so I'll just throw a temper tantrum".

Absolutely not. Just because technology has allowed a power shift away from individual rights doesn't mean that's the way "reality works". The entire point of law is that we shape these aspects of society. It is not a "temper tantrum" to point out that responsibility doesn't fall upon the individual just because a rent-seeking corporation framed the discussion in that manner.

An easier to understand variant of this problem is so-called "identity theft". Nobody can steal your identity. They can impersonate you, but you still are the same person. The actual problem is e.g. banks giving loans to people without properly verifying the identity of the person. As a 3rd party, the bank has no valid reason to involve you in their, but by calling it "identity theft" they re-frame the situation as if was the your responsibility to keep your identity from being stolen (which is basically impossible).

[1] http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/03/report-facebook-t...

[DanBC]

Facebook is gathering, processing, and storing my personal information (my name, my face) without my permission, and not acting when people ask them to stop processing and storing information about me.

That's probably not legal in EU.

[golemotron]

> There's a setting that makes tagging require you verify and accept the post/photo.

Where is that?

[TeMPOraL]

Went and checked. There are two things you can do:

1) The second option on Settings/Privacy page controls how things you're tagged in end up on your timeline. On my account there's a link that to the Timeline Review page[0], on which you can enable or disable reviewing things before they become visible on your timeline.

2) There's a whole Settings page for Timeline and Tagging[1]. There you can control who can post on your timeline, how tagging you will work, whether your friends will see posts you get tagged in and whether or not you appear in tag suggestions. The tagging options work across Facebook, not just for your timeline.

[0] - https://www.facebook.com/INSERT_PROFILE_NAME/allactivity?log...

[1] - https://www.facebook.com/settings?tab=timeline

[rtpg]

there's Timeline review (though I don't think it's exactly what he's saying, it lets pictures tagged with you avoid your wall unless you explicitly accept it)