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by TeMPOraL 3892 days ago
I can't tag you if you don't have a Facebook account. What are you proposing? That typing someone's name without their consent should not be allowed? I think that would be seriously infringing on the right to write things.

> Putting the responsibility on the named person is just another form of victim blaming.

Victim blaming is quickly becoming a term for "I don't like how the reality works, so I'll just throw a temper tantrum".

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> I can't tag you if you don't have a Facebook account.

I have no idea if that's true now. Historically, this was encouraged. I know my name has been added on pictures by my sister, at a minimum. I've never had an account at FB and never will. I'm assuming it is common knowledge on HN that just because you haven't registered an account with facebook doesn't mean your account doesn't exist.[1]

> That typing someone's name without their consent should not be allowed?

Obviously not. This thread is about credit scores, which facebook shouldn't be influencing based on hearsay. The bigger point is that "failure to opt-out" is not consent.

> Victim blaming is quickly becoming a term for "I don't like how the reality works, so I'll just throw a temper tantrum".

Absolutely not. Just because technology has allowed a power shift away from individual rights doesn't mean that's the way "reality works". The entire point of law is that we shape these aspects of society. It is not a "temper tantrum" to point out that responsibility doesn't fall upon the individual just because a rent-seeking corporation framed the discussion in that manner.

An easier to understand variant of this problem is so-called "identity theft". Nobody can steal your identity. They can impersonate you, but you still are the same person. The actual problem is e.g. banks giving loans to people without properly verifying the identity of the person. As a 3rd party, the bank has no valid reason to involve you in their, but by calling it "identity theft" they re-frame the situation as if was the your responsibility to keep your identity from being stolen (which is basically impossible).

[1] http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/03/report-facebook-t...

Facebook is gathering, processing, and storing my personal information (my name, my face) without my permission, and not acting when people ask them to stop processing and storing information about me.

That's probably not legal in EU.