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by mmilinkov 3925 days ago
"Deny"? No, not really. What I am saying is that pretty much every factoid in that blog post is either wrong or taken out of context.

Again: JDT is just fine. It is not dying.

Yes the chart screenshots are from our website. But I can also confirm that the chart screenshots show only the data from the the top-level JDT project. It is not including the sub-projects. We have someone working on fixing that now. Here is a summary of the commits since June:

+-------------------+---------+ | project | commits | +-------------------+---------+ | eclipse.jdt | 8 | | eclipse.jdt.core | 165 | | eclipse.jdt.debug | 18 | | eclipse.jdt.ui | 34 | +-------------------+---------+

As I said all the work is happening in the Java 9 branch, and are not being included. Take a look at the link I included in my original post, which shows 108 commits in jdt.core just in the last month.

Re: New and Noteworthy, as I said the team is focused on Java 9....there will be lots of content there when they have something.

Re: mailing list - Mailing lists are Eclipse are not like many other open source projects. They only use them for internal project conversations. (Yes, I know that's sort of weird.) If you want to find where the action is at Eclipse, you don't look at the mailing lists. Look in Bugzilla. I'll try to find the right query and link it here to show what I mean.

Re: Website: Yes, that is totally bogus. Yes, the project doesn't pay a lot of attention to that. That's at least partially because we focus on [1] as the landing page for users.

[1] https://www.eclipse.org/ide/

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"Take a look at the link I included in my original post, which shows 108 commits in jdt.core just in the last month."

You need to take another look at the timeframe for that statement.

The link (http://git.eclipse.org/c/jdt/eclipse.jdt.core.git/stats/?per...) in your original post shows 15 commits so far in September, not 108 as you claim. The 108 figure is total commits since the beginning of June.

I gave Mike that data without providing enough context. Yes, 108 is the number of commits since the beginning of June. That number includes all commits on all branches.

You're right that the number of commits in September is down, but the trend line in the months preceding September is pretty stable and represents a healthy project that is on track to deliver Java 9 support in September 2016 (and that's what is really important, right?)

The project lead has taken some time out of his busy schedule to capture down an explanation for the anomaly in the commit chart.

https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/jdt-ui-dev/msg01425.ht...

That the project didn't include any talk of Java 9 in their new and noteworthy is, I believe, primarily the project lead trying to be careful about what claims we make about Java 9 support.

FWIW, you can test the Java 9 support BETA today.

http://marketplace.eclipse.org/content/eclipse-java%E2%84%A2...

I've changed how we generate those charts to make it easier for people to see activity without having to understand (and navigate) our (arcane?) project hierarchy.

   +-------------------+---------+ 
   | project           | commits | 
   +-------------------+---------+ 
   | eclipse.jdt       |       8 | 
   | eclipse.jdt.core  |     165 |
   | eclipse.jdt.debug |      18 |
   | eclipse.jdt.ui    |      34 |
   +-------------------+---------+