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by woofyman 3927 days ago
Social Security is based on your highest 20 years of salary and what age you start collecting benefits. My projected monthly payment, if I start collecting at 70 is $3,600.00 a month. I'm 56.
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Small correction, it's based on your highest 35 years of salary[1]

[1] - http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10070.pdf

Right, thank you. I only have 2 more years to go.
Congrats!
How'd you get them figures? I'm 53, I'm curious how mine looks.
SSA sends out an annual letter with your figures. You can also create an account on SSA.gov[1] and check anytime you want.

[1]: http://www.ssa.gov/myaccount/

Sweet, thanks. Looks like I'll get $2600/mo at age 70. If SSA holds out that long, I can live on that, but I am not hopeful.
Benefits won't just stop completely. If Congress fails to act, SSA will have to cut benefits to 70%. So, instead of $2,600 you'll receive $1,820. At 70% payout, SSA can continue to pay benefits at projected income levels indefinitely.
Now all I have to worry about is keeping up with inflation.
Inflation won't be an issue. The only costs going up are healthcare and college. College won't be an issue for you, and Medicare should fill the gap until the US makes it to single payer.
They'll start sending you estimates when you get a little older but you can go to ss.gov for an estimate.
Are there parts of the US where $3600 is enough?
$3,600 a month is more than enough in most places in the US. Especially if you plan right and have a paid off house in an area with favorable property tax laws when you retire.
I live in an area where $3600/month is more than the median income.

Hell, five years ago, I was supporting myself, my wife and a kid on about something like that.[1] It was rough, but just barely manageable.

[1] "Something like that" because I was making significantly less, but had some familial advantages (I was driving a car in decent condition that I got from parents when I was younger, parents bought the kids lots of clothes, and of course I had a safety net, which is huge--not having that would've moved me from constant stress to full blown panic).

Edit: Ohhhh, I forgot the EITC, which makes a big difference. That nudged us a lot closer to that line back then.

Still, where I live, $3600 a month would be fine for a single person who didn't have enormous health care costs (and I know that's a real "aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln?" comment. Retirees are pretty likely to have big medical bills).

I live in Ohio and have paid off my home so for my wife and myself that would be enough. This assumes no expensive medical emergencies, no new cars needed, no significant international travel, etc. Wouldn't be a very luxurious life but we wouldn't starve to death. About all I'm hoping for any longer.
Define "enough". $3600/mo is $43.2k/yr, which is a few k/yr less than the nationwide median income. Keep in mind that in many areas, two wage-earners (that is, $100k+/yr) are required to maintain a middle class standard of living.

It could be pretty adequate if the potential retiree has planned well and has already paid off their home (a typical house payment in an area of the country with a sane cost of living would probably be between $1k-$1.5k). It'd really help to have some decently-sized retirement accounts.

Basically, $3600/mo is adequate maintenance money, but add one or two major expenses to that (like a house, car, or major medical bill), and it gets dicier. If you want to travel during your retirement, or do anything besides buy groceries, you'll need significant savings to draw from.

Plus health insurance costs.
Medicare + subsidized supplemental insurance from the ACA (due to less income in retirement years).
If the $3600 is what goes into your pocket (I'm not really up on how SS is taxed, since I'm too young to ever have a chance of seeing a dime of it), then yeah, that is a pretty comfortable amount of income in many areas of the US. Assuming you have your mortgage paid off, there are a lot of places in the U.S. where a retired person with that kind of income would have more disposable income than anyone else in the community.
Yeah, most anywhere except California, Washington (both), and New York.
Median income of the subset of employed americans is only $2400/month before tax, so you'll be living better than most Americans at $3600/mo.
"Median income of the subset of employed americans is only $2400/month"

That's also a good point as to why people aren't saving money....

Where are you seeing that $28k/yr is the median income? Bear in mind this is per month, not per pay period.
Just a guess, but if he threw "median personal income US" into Google, it would've quoted from Wikipedia:

> The overall median income for all 155 million persons over the age of 15 who worked with earnings in 2005 was $28,567

Which, divided by 12, is $2380.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_income_in_the_United_...

I checked before posting by typing in "median us income": https://archive.is/M05IS . It's $51,939. The difference is that this is median household income, not median personal income. This is the answer I usually see when median income is discussed, and it's really debatable which is the most appropriate to use when discussing what a person can "live off of", though I accept that personal median income is the most direct analog to personal Social Security payments. The real question is whether the OP has a wife that will also be collecting SS.
Yes.

I grew up in north-central Arkansas. The median household income there is substantially less than that.

That's 43,200/yr- plenty to live a comfortable life in much of the US.