[kuni-toko-tachi]

Same poison different bottle. Socialism is a memetic meme that leads to totalitarianism everytime. Why? Because it centralizes power and always fails. As it inevitably fails the ideology is never blamed, just faulted for being impure, and therefore in need of a stronger dose. Since the structure of control is already in place, the measures become more extreme and its ideological opponents demonized and propagandized as the cause to divert attention from the root cause. Even a cursory look at the history of leftist movements shows the same pattern and same end result of misery. You already see elements of this on the left in America, were SJW extremists think nothing of destroying peoples lives and careers.

[mikeash]

Lots of socialist countries are doing fine, so how can you say it "always fails"?

How does the "structure of control" needed for things like national health care contribute in any way to the "structure of control" needed to oppress citizens?

[kuni-toko-tachi]

Lots? Which ones? And for how long?

[mikeash]

The Scandinavian countries, various countries in Western Europe.