[ArkyBeagle]

Those "flags" just mean they sponsored whatever conference this is at. The video nor the other stuff doesn't say which conference it is.

It's funny how the US is damned if it does and damned if it doesn't in these cases. "Big oil" might or might not be even interested in how Ukraine/Russia works out, beyond the usual "can we do business there?" concerns. Isn't it simply that competitors to Russian control over Ukraine need partners offshore for oil operations?

I know people who have had to travel to Cote Ivorie to do work, and it's an uncomfortable thing to have to do. They have a number that can call if they need to be evacuated. Not that this has been executed, but it has come up in discussions with the customer there.

After all, we could just turn our backs and let Putin have whatever he wants.

When we look back historically at the 1953 Iran coup, that sure as heck was oil oriented, but it was the British government ultimately that requested CIA involvement. Nationalizing other people's oil assets has certain ... risks associated with it. This is at very least much more subtle than that.

[arca_vorago]

Oh yeah, its because theyre "damned if they do damned if they dont" all right. Like pushing a color revolution so you can coopt the powrr base is just a "oopsie well we might as well because wed be viewed as damned anyway!" Sort of thing. Does HN really buy this obvious shill propaganda?

[ArkyBeagle]

I don't buy "shill propaganda" because I watch a couple of metric tons of CSPAN every year. The big companies just sponsor these things blindly. It's all rather bland. They do it sort of blindly - and it's not exactly Riefenstahl. It's very grey-corporate boring.

I just meant "damned if you do; damned of you don't" to bring up the odd position Americans find themselves in four generations against the natural grain of American isolationism. The infamous American provincialism is well-won.