[api_or_ipa]

> How about observing how well they perform before bringing in your Ayn Rand propaganda.

While I agree with the rest of your post, your portrayal of Ms. Rand's work is woefully inaccurate. No where do I recall she wrote of demeaning blacks, suppressing wages and preventing the equal participation of all capable people in a common market.

Rand was very clear that racism and discrimination hindered the free market by preventing, under threat of violence, the equality of all in participating in market transactions and deals.

It's a shame Atlas Shrugged is so long, because I think most people would be far more humbled by what she wrote compared to what people think she wrote about.

[mistermann]

> most people would be far more humbled by what she wrote compared to what people think she wrote about

That's a good way to put it. Most people it seems have extremely negative opinions of her, but I'd wager that most of these people have read only opinions of others about her rather than anything actually written by her.

Although, I can definitely agree with the sentiment that her fiction is...weird, especially reading it today with the significant cultural changes that have occurred since it was written. But her non-fiction I think is pretty well written - whether you agree with it or not, it's far from a joke as most people who've never read any of it make it out to be.

[DannoHung]

Hahahahah fuck off

"They (Native Americans) didn't have any rights to the land, and there was no reason for anyone to grant them rights which they had not conceived and were not using. What was it that they were fighting for, when they opposed white men on this continent? For their wish to continue a primitive existence, their 'right' to keep part of the earth untouched, unused and not even as property, but just keep everybody out so that you will live practically like an animal, or a few caves above it. Any white person who brings the element of civilization has the right to take over this continent."

[dang]

> Hahahahah fuck off

Please, no comments like this on HN, regardless of how wrong Ayn Rand was.

[logingone]

I think you, and those below, have misunderstood this quote, in the usual knee-jerk liberal ("fuck off") fascist manner. She is complaining about the lack of productive use of the land. She is saying that the native Americans didn't have rights to keep the land from being used productively. She is saying that they are maintaining a way life that is not progressing - she is not saying they should be excluded from progressing.

[dylanjermiah]

I'd recommend you start your post in a more serious manner, if you'd like it to gain serious readership.

[milkshakes]

actually, i rather liked it. i'd recommend you lurk a little longer before telling people what to do.

[dylanjermiah]

I did not tell anyone what to do. I recommended a suggestion. I do not find 'hahaha fuck off' to be a good instigation of productive conversation.

[noir_lord]

I did as well, honest communication != nice communication.

Also his riposte pretty much destroyed the argument of the person he was responding too.

[eli_gottlieb]

Nobody in this thread actually cares what Ayn Rand said or didn't say. The thread's not about her.