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by rrhoover
3983 days ago
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We do have voting ring detection in place and often inform makers of our policy on Twitter when we see them asking for upvotes (often times they simply don't know it's not OK) in addition to highlighting this policy in the email that people receive when they're tagged as a maker. |
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While I have to take your word that you tell people not to ask for votes, that's not sufficient to creating a fair system without manipulation. The Product Hunt demographic is "growth hackers" and scrappy entrepreneurs who want to do anything to get their startup to succeed. These are the same people who want to "move fast and break things." The flip side of that is that they know that what they do is wrong, but they can get away with it without much consequence.
Case in point, there's a lot of meta discussion on "how to tell people to vote for your PH submission without getting flagged by the voting ring detector" (http://www.reddit.com/r/startups/comments/36hsfc/product_hun... ) and "how to get upvotes on PH because you know an influential investor." (https://medium.com/ferris-life/zero-to-featured-how-ferris-c...).
Voting manipulation, not limited to but including voting rings, completely compromise Product Hunt mission to "find the best products." A one-liner in the FAQ will not resolve it, and I don't believe PH is doing enough to facilitate awareness and enforce that voting manipulation, in any form, is very bad.