[verroq]

Why is modern webdev this hard?

Even the todo-mvcs are all ~500 to 1000+ lines.

[uptown]

It's the future.

http://blog.circleci.com/its-the-future/

[agumonkey]

This one hurts, deeply.

[roneesh]

Funny stuff, but it makes me want to just put my hands over my eyes and say "let a Dev ops guy handle it!"

[KurtMueller]

CircleCI uses Om for its frontend.

[wslh]

I think because we are living in the prehistoric era of modern webdev. Programming in assembler is much easier!

[ryanSrich]

JavaScript.

https://www.shopify.com/technology/15646068-rebuilding-the-s...

[woah]

What are you talking about? I've never seen a 2k lines todomvc.

[verroq]

Here's my unscientific LOC count results (that I did in 5 minutes).

I've removed node_modules and bower_components from the items in: https://github.com/tastejs/todomvc/examples

I've also deleted "polymer" and "emberjs_require" since they didn't have any files in them and messes up the `wc -l`

    $ for x in *; do echo $x; wc -l `find $x/ -name '*js*' -type f | egrep -v 'test|lib|public|vendor|.bundle.js|.cache.js'`; echo; done

Results: http://pastebin.com/GqF0g3qF

Obviously one can improve the filtering to get more accurate results but you get the point. To make a TODO mvc you need at least 5+ different files and totalling a lot of lines. The fact that jQuery solution (which is very nice code, not the typical spaghetti) beats the majority of them in line count is pretty ironic.

[Gigablah]

You included all the spec / unit test files, and in some instances you included the framework.

[verroq]

I've updated with `test|` in the filter now, but the point stands.

[Gigablah]

Sure, if your only metric is LOC. (Even then the majority is below 500 lines -- code style is an important factor)

Will jQuery suffice if you're creating Asana rather than todoMVC?