[bsaul]

? Are you being sarcastic ? Since when did the US or Israel threatened Iran of anything ?

It seems to me you're inversing causes and consequences. Hopefully looking at events chronologically will help you get things back in order.

[jballanc]

Are you ignorant? or being willingly obtuse? Between the US and Iran, one of these countries supported a successful overthrow of the other country's democratically elected government. I'll let you figure out which country was the aggressor in that situation and then we can reconsider why Iran feels threatened by the US and its allies.

[bsaul]

Are you talking about CIA games dating back to something like 70 years ago, during the cold war, to fight against USSR influence ? I don't think it's that relevant, unless you're willing to accept every pretext told by Iran.

The first consequence of having the nuclear bomb would not be for the Iran/US relationship, it will be local for the region. It'll mean that Iran will have an even bigger local military influence, knowing that no one will be able to attack them on their territory. Aka a highway to a full war between shiites and sunnites (which are probably starting their own nuclear program right at the moment).

Hearing the declaration of Iranien leader with respect to their neighbors, and seeing what's happening right now in Yemen, i wouldn't be surprised to see a new country vs country war coming in the next 5 years.

[jballanc]

Well, it's not as if the CIA participated in the coup in Iran, had a change of heart, and decided to change its ways. Quite the opposite! The CIA has shown a continued willingness to intervene and overthrow regimes that don't toe the line. Here's a list you might be interested in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_United_States_foreign_r...

Notice the last item on the list: Bush authorized the CIA to carry out operations aimed at destabilizing the government of Iran. So, yeah...Iran's probably not crazy to be worried about US aggression.

Not only that, but remember when Bush called out the "Axis of Evil"? Iran, Iraq, and North Korea. Of those three, one had nuclear weapons at the time, one was in the process of developing them, and one had disassembled its WMD programs under UN supervision. Since then, one of those three has been invaded by the US, one has only received sanctions from the US, and one has received food and fuel aid from the US.

Do the math...

[bsaul]

I think the axis of evil was designated after 9/11 ( world's biggest terrorist act) and both Iran and Iraq rejoiced, after having spread anti-american ideology in their countries and outside for decades, while commiting terrorist actions for decades throughout the world. It didn't come from nowhere.

Now, to answer the question of why is usa being called the great evil by the iranian regime ( and not why you would find it logical) you simply have to listen to their spiritual leaders : they just hate western values, period. They think our sexual and political behaviors makes us close to the devil.

And that, unfortunately, is not going to change anytime soon.

[jballanc]

You need to check your facts. Both Iran's president and supreme leader condemned 9/11 and many Iranians held candlelight vigils for the victims: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactions_to_the_September_11_...

[lmm]

Israel (whose own illicit nuclear program is far more advanced than Iran's, let's not forget) is widely acknowledged to have assassinated Iranian scientists, no? That goes beyond threats.

[AnimalMuppet]

Don't know about chronologically, but: Between the US and Iran, one country regularly has large groups in the streets, chanting about death to the other country. Which way does that flow, again?