[exarch]

This is what happens when dev teams hate ops teams. Troubleshooting a production bug without a terminal is a recipe for lengthy outages.

[jacques_chester]

I worked on Cloud Foundry buildpacks for 7 months. I was working at the Pivotal Labs offices in NYC and I can tell you this for free: devs want SSH access too.

When a box dies in staging, it's nice to learn why.

[lamontcg]

Yes, exactly.

This is an old-school ops team that learned about "devops" and "immutable infrastructure" and figured now they have all the necessary arguments to kick the devs off the servers once and for all. Not progress.