[ziles88]

Only thing irritating is the constant comparisons to Apple, not just in this article but any article. If a company can't compete with Apple it's suddenly a weak company that the author suggested the employees should quit from to 'join a startup'.

This is asinine. Motorola has licensed deals with almost every American and Canadian police/government force. They basically own digital RF encryption. They have a foothold in this industry and it's not close, and they can't be pushed out. If I was an employee in their radio division I could really care less if they are involved in phones are not.

It's still a billion dollar company, what are we even saying 'bye' to?

[melling]

"A billion dollar company"

Wasn't that Blackberry's line?

https://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ%3ABBRY&ei=h3SiVanIKY...

Could have been Sun Microsytem's too.

I think they're saying bye to relevance and innovation. They're worth half as much as Tesla, for example.

[atinoda-kestrel]

> Wasn't that Blackberry's line?

Yes, and years later BlackBerry is still around, with a CEO that's almost finished reversing the damage the previous ones caused.

I get your point, but still. Also, you seem to be conflating stock price with company success, health, etc. You shouldn't. Post 90s, they're pretty divorced from one another.

> I think they're saying bye to relevance and innovation. They're worth half as much as Tesla, for example.

No, they're worth half as much as Tesla according to the stock market. There's a big difference.

[nullrouted]

Can you tell us how they have reversed the damage? I don't see anyone carrying blackberrys anymore.

[atinoda-kestrel]

They're not done yet. But they've slowed the bleeding tremendously, gotten out of unprofitable businesses, actually shipped the damn OS (instead of farting around with demos and research), and are working to ensure that QNX provides a solid revenue stream in the mean time.

BlackBerry under the previous CEOs was much like Sun: lots of cool ideas, lots of smart people, but no direction towards shipping products people wanted.

Now it's like Apple shortly after buying NeXT. Only with no advertising (their current biggest flaw).

[melling]

You forgot to include your way to value a company. Also, it's market cap, not stock price.

Btw, I'm glad Blackberry has turned it around. I bought the stock around $10. I should see it pop anytime now? Or you've got some other made up way to value a company and I should ignore the stock market?

[rasz_pl]

>Could have been Sun Microsytem's too.

Sun was actually in talks to buy Apple in ~1996 :)

[iolothebard]

Hopefully to fucking websites like this one. Just write a damn article. Kudos on the portfolio addition though.

[codewithcheese]

I enjoyed it, was something a bit different.