[JupiterMoon]

So you've probably just broken the law by doing so. And you have to do this everytime the app gets updates. And you have to be sure that the encryption is actually getting used on every message. And that the key is strong and not known to Whatsapp. And also that the recipients copy of the app is behaving the same as yours. So I guess the question is, if you had something to hide would you bet your life on it?

Whereas with Textsecure. Well it just works...

[jsprogrammer]

>So you've probably just broken the law by doing so.

By modifying your own device? I don't think so.

[JupiterMoon]

Many countries have laws against reverse engineering programs. Whilst I think these laws are stupid I would prefer to just use the open source program than mess around with the closed source alternative.

[nitrogen]

According to Wikipedia[0], reverse engineering is generally legal in the US:

In the United States even if an artifact or process is protected by trade secrets, reverse-engineering the artifact or process is often lawful as long as it has been legitimately obtained.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_engineering#United_Sta...

[JupiterMoon]

Actually have another look at that before you break the law on this yourself.

As far as I can see that article says that reverse engineering is legal in the case that: (1) the EULA doesn't mention it (I've no idea what Whatsapp EULA says - do you?). (2) it is done for the purpose of interoperability. What is being proposed by the GP is in fact not interoperability but security testing.

As I said before I think that the laws on this are stupid. But why worry about this when there is a great FOSS program in the same space?

[aw3c2]

And that is one country out of ~200.

[blfr]

Yes but it has 350M people living in it, half the HN, Silicon Valley, and Moxie with his team. It's not honest to say the US is just another country among 200.

[tP5n]

yep, in other words around 4% of the world's population live in the US and of course this pales in comparison to actually large nation states, like india or china.

[celticninja]

it is honest to say that, it's just that americans like to think they are special.

[lostlogin]

Ones answer to that probably depends on where they live.

[JupiterMoon]

Assuming that nothing in the thing being reverse engineered is not encrypted or protected in some fashion right?