[icanhackit]

Time to start working on the 7km chip. Fibre everywhere, content delivery servers everywhere, game servers out the wazoo so my crappy media streaming gadget or VR headset can remotely pull in the latest movies and games in 4K with minimal lag. You could outfit a few of the world's major cities for the cost of a new fab.

Unfortunately this won't sell new consumer hardware on an regular basis.

[c0nnector]

You can build an entire new industry around it.

Eveything as a service. Even hardware could become a service. You wouldn't have to actually own it, instead pay a monthly fee and you have access to produxt X. You get the latest models without any extras fees.

The advantage of having a service is that the customer is hooked and it's harder to leave.

[puranjay]

These folks are trying something like that: https://saybyebuy.com/

As an idea, I feel it's wonderful. It would massively reduce wastage.

[rprospero]

What scares me about proposals like this is that it's further stratification of society into two separate classes: those who actually own everything and those who must appease the owners.

For example, I can put £40 in my sock drawer every month and, in eight months, I could buy a PS4 and use it for the rest of my life. I could then start save that £40 toward a different purchase. Alternately, I could go with the site you listed and pay £40 a month for the rest of my life just for that same PS4, never making headway.

Now, you can point out that a PS4 is almost the definition of an unnecessary luxury and that I don't have to pay the £40 monthly rental fee, and you'd be right. I mostly went with that example because it was right on the front page and such a terrible deal. Still, in the world where I can own things, I can have the PS4 and the £40 a month, after a little over a half year of hardship, while the rental society won't let me have that. Similarly, I can buy a DVD and watch it forever, instead of shelling out for Netflix each month and hoping that they don't drop that title.

[pjc50]

Exactly. This is a very old business model; the UK company "Radio Rentals" pioneered it in the 30s and was very successful in the era when TVs were expensive (compared to housing!). It's been largely obliterated by cheap credit.

All of the items on that front page have a monthly rental cost that's about 1/10 the purchase cost. In most cases you'd be better off with a 12 month personal loan than renting it for 12 months and you get to keep the item. If you want it for 18 months then even buying it on a credit card at 20% looks like a reasonable option.

[gshubert17]

> Similarly, I can buy a DVD and watch it forever, instead of shelling out for Netflix each month and hoping that they don't drop that title.

I agree and I have piles of DVDs to show for it. Here's my problem. One DVD is a fine example, but what about 10, 100, 1000? At some point, it's worth it to use Netflix for storage.

I also have stacks of VHS tapes, and audio cassettes and LPs. The life of my playback hardware is finite. I can refresh the hardware or somehow try to copy my old media to new media. I'll have to think what I might have done different if something like Netflix had existed when I started buying audio and video to own and accumulate.

[glhaynes]

I could buy a PS4 and use it for the rest of my life

If you're amazingly lucky. In actuality, you've got to replace it (or have it repaired, which is usually almost as expensive) every few years because it wears out.

And you've got to continue paying for electricity to run it all that time. And the TV (and replacements/repairs for it) to play it on. And the electricity to run the TV. And a payment for the dwelling in which it's housed. (Which you can buy outright… but even if you do, the payments for upkeep and the taxes to keep roads/etc coming to it end up being of a similar order…) Etc, etc.

In practice, unless we lived under a radically different system (far more different than [state] capitalism with/without a guaranteed minimum income, or communism), we pretty much have to have a system in which everyone can afford to continue making regular payments on many if not most of the expensive things they use.

[joshuapants]

In the "rental" situation you still pay for all of those things, but with the added overhead of corporate bureaucracy.

[pjc50]

OnLive tried the games streaming thing and failed.

[pault]

I used OnLive and really enjoyed it, for the most part. I think it was just ahead of its time. I personally would rather stream from a render farm than lug a big noisy gaming tower around. I think this model will be tried again successfully in the near future.