[kylebrown]

Speaking of smalltalk, was project Oberon inspired by Alan Kay's STEPS project to implement a full OS + apps in under 20k LoC?

http://www.vpri.org/pdf/tr2008004_steps08.pdf

[pjmlp]

It was inspired by Cedar.

Wirth took sabbatical years to work at Xerox PARC in the two occasions.

After the first visit when we learned about Mesa, we designed Modula-2 and its OS Lillith.

On the second visit he got to use Mesa evolution, Cedar, which was his inspiration for Oberon and the Ceres workstation.

[pjmlp]

Replying to my own post. As it is already frozen for editing.

Please note the sentence

> After the first visit when we learned about Mesa, we designed Modula-2 and its OS Lillith.

we is wrong! Stupid mobile autocorrection, it should be read he.

[dang]

Wow, that's fascinating.

[dang]

Oberon dates from the 80s, so much earlier. But they are clearly kindred spirits in wanting to make whole systems that a single person can understand.