[AnimalMuppet]

> You wish poverty on millions? You wish social unrest? You wish the perpetuation of an unjust financial state of affairs then.

I don't wish poverty on millions (or even on one). I don't wish social unrest. But I also don't wish to force the rest of Europe to keep throwing money into a sinkhole. That would also be to "wish the perpetuation of an unjust financial state of affairs".

Greece needs more than just an infusion of money. It needs more than just debt forgiveness. It needs a transformation of its society, government, and politics. Only Greece can do those things - the EU can't do it for them. Currently, to this outsider, it looks like Greece refuses to even try to do so. But they complain about the cruel Europeans who will let Greek children starve in the streets. Well, it seems to me that Europe is much more willing to help those who at least try to help themselves.

Sorry if this seems heartless. As I said, I am an outsider - not just to Greece, but to Europe. This is my perception from afar. But even with the best will in the world, it appears to me that no outsider can really do much to help Greece until Greece is willing to see that it must change.