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by pdkl95 3999 days ago
> nothing in meteor

That's actually very informative. ?I guess www.meteor.com is one of those sites that doesn't handle it properly? I? have no idea.

> Hundreds of thousands of my users don't seen to mind.

Really? Have you asked them?

Hundred of thousands of your users probably have no idea whatsoever what their browser is doing, and it is disingenuous to say that they "don't mind" - especially when javascript is used for things like tracking reading times and other things probably call "analytics" and a lot of us call "spying".

> I worry about the security of my actual users.

Apparently not - you just make sure your users can only be people who know nothing about modern network security.

Remember, I'm not saying javascript applications are bad or that you shouldn't write them[1]. I'm saying you shouldn't leave your precious "user experience" in the case where javascript is not available as a totally-useless, non-informative blank page. Which many sites have started to do, www.meteor.com included. Thqt''S IT. All this arguing about javascript is missing the point.

[1] At most, I only suggested that a lot of the time what is being made is not an application", but a fairly simple document. The only reason javascript could be needed (isntead of progressively enhanced) on something like a simple search page is if you are trying to run spyware (such as google-analytics) in the background, behind the user's back.