[Karunamon]

The language where "stalking and threatening and hurting" equates to "saying mean things on the internet", or at times "disagreeing with".

I'm getting rather tired of seeing words like "harassment" being bandied about as shorthand for incivility.

[koko775]

But that doesn't hold up under scrutiny:

reddit explicitly defined their language around harassment to mean:

> Systematic and/or continued actions to torment or demean someone in a way that would make a reasonable person (1) conclude that reddit is not a safe platform to express their ideas or participate in the conversation, or (2) fear for their safety or the safety of those around them.

http://www.redditblog.com/2015/05/promote-ideas-protect-peop...

Key words to pay attention to here are: systematic, continued, fear. This isn't about being a jerk, or even being a jerk randomly. It's about being a jerk in a targeted way, a lot and over time, in a very intentional way to the degree that it causes fear to speak up or fear for one's self.

Look at the extent to which reddit admins allow hateful speech so long as they don't step outside their boundaries, and you'll understand that they're actually sticking to that definition.

[Karunamon]

Unfortunately, there's a difference between the "official policy" and the way shadowbans and recent community bans are actually handed out. It leads me to believe they're not sticking to that definition at all, and are using the definition of harassment that includes "saying things I don't like".

Lots of officious nonsense posted by bot accounts, but the entire admin staff over there refuses to answer direct questions, despite them being posted every time one of them shows up in a thread.

Not exactly the mark of people who are acting in good faith. If they were, I'd expect them to be falling over themselves to answer questions...