[Someone1234]

> I just don't agree with shadowbanning people and removing -distasteful- subreddits. I just don't visit them.

Please don't misrepresent what happened.

FPH has been bullying, harassing, and abusing individuals for almost a year. Pictures of people out in public, Facebook profiles, other Redditors, the Imgur staff, brigading other subs (inc. weight loss subs), attacking popular bloggers, YouTubers, and people on Twitter. Often this was just for the "crime" of being overweight and the abuse was nasty.

I'm tired of people defending this behaviour as being "distasteful" or "offensive." Even the title of Reddit's announcement was "removing HARASSING subreddits." And if you don't believe that's what FPH was doing then you literally didn't spend even one minute on it.

Key Reddit staff quotes:

> subreddit as a platform to harass individuals

> We’re banning behavior, not ideas.

> based on their harassment of individuals

> When we are using the word "harass", we're not talking about "being annoying" or vote manipulation or anything. We're talking about men and women whose lives are being affected and worry for their safety every day, because people from a certain community on reddit have decided to actually threaten them, online and off, every day. When you've had to talk to as many victims of it as we have, you'd understand that a brigade from one subreddit to another is miles away from the harassment we don't want being generated on our site.

If this is what you support, please leave Reddit. I welcome you gone.

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FPH has been bullying, harassing, and abusing individuals for almost a year

Yes, and /r/shitredditsays has been bullying, harassing and abusing individuals for several years. But that subreddit is allowed to exist because Ellen Pao (reddit CEO) and admins agree with their politics.

Any other subreddit is deathly afraid to directly link to other comments on the site because they don't want to be accused of "brigading" votes which is against the rules and will get the subreddit banned. /r/shitredditsays links directly and openly vote brigades dozens of times per day. Again, because their political speech is favored.

[Vik1ng]

> Pictures of people out in public, Facebook profiles

But Reddit mostly does not give a shit about posting pictures of people without their consent. Even on bis subs like /r/pics or /r/funny you will see pictures of people in public, which obviously did not consent to have their images posted there. So that's a pretty big double standard to accuse FPH of that while completely ignoring it on default subs.

And /r/videos time after time results in people harassing and brigarding youtubers.

[FLUX-YOU]

If they wanted to ban behavior, they should have banned the individuals from reddit site-wide. But that would have been hard, so instead, they go after the common banner that causes the behavior.

That IS banning an idea. They have essentially said "We're banning FPH for harassment, but if you participated in that harassment, feel free to browse our other subreddits."

[bluecalm]

>>We're talking about men and women whose lives are being affected and worry for their safety every day

I was reading /r/FPH on regular basis for few weeks before it was closed as I've found it entertaining even if distasteful. I think you have very skewed view of what it was:

-posting identifying personal info was forbidden/removed by the mods

-linking to other parts of Reddit was a no-no

-I can't remember seeing anything threatening on it there was no discussion about threats or doing bad things to specific people; just over the top venting

That is unless you understand "safety" as it is too often interpreted today: hearing not politically correct opinions. If you think the decision has anything to do with removing harassing subreddit try visiting /r/coontown and think why it's still online.