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by _delirium 4012 days ago
Is locking people in cages really necessary to stop bank misbehavior though? I would prefer first trying things like: 1) closer oversight; 2) fines restructured as a percentage of wealth so that they actually deter even very wealthy people; 3) kicking people out of the sector (e.g. bans from working in finance). Cages seem like a really blunt and rather barbaric instrument to use for improving society.
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rjsw 4012 days ago
Some punishments are designed to send a message [1], maybe bankers would change their behaviour too.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Byng

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nitrogen 4011 days ago
Making an example out of someone to send a message to others is completely unjust for the person who is made an example.
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fineman 4011 days ago
Did they intend the crime? And their only defense is "The other guy was doing it too"? Oh well.

As long as we prosecute as many people in their position as possible it doesn't seem to be a problem if we miss some. It's only selective when we choose who to ignore.

Something like Aaron Schwartz where it wasn't a crime until someone who made the DA look like an idiot does it... Then it's clearly crossed the line.

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eru 4012 days ago
> 2) fines restructured as a percentage of wealth so that they actually deter even very wealthy people

Or even just the possibility of piercing the veil of incorporation, ie let the employees take some risk on the downside, too.

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nate_meurer 4011 days ago
Cages ought to be reserved for people who cannot be trusted to live amongst the populace -- violent criminals, habitual negligents (e.g., drunk drivers), thieves and con artists.

If a bankster's danger to society can be remedied by banning him from his chosen profession, and justice served with a fine, it does seem like we could spare the cage.

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fineman 4011 days ago
The thing is, the banker (or other white-collar criminal) is the only one who planned it. They, more than the thugs imho, should be locked away because they're predators not just opportunists.

And maybe we could spare the cage... But after we get around to the mistakenly (cough) convicted black people, and poor people, and those with mental illness, etc, then we can worry about the poor-banker in his comfortable minimum-security cell.

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nate_meurer 4010 days ago
Well that's a fine point you make -- predators vs. opportunists. And I need to be reminded that wealthy white-collar criminals don't often experience the same kind prison as does the common man.
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