[saool]

Unless you are tarring ships, you mean paid, not payed.

As an H1-B holder you have to jump through many hoops, including constant attention to your command of the language. How does it feel to be judged? :)

More importantly, why would you expect more from a foreign applicant that from a local? The point is there shouldn't be discrimination, in either way. H1-Bs are for specialty occupations that are in high demand to begin with. Not sure what encourages you to be more catholic than the Pope.

[protomyth]

> Unless you are tarring ships, you mean paid, not payed.

> As an H1-B holder you have to jump through many hoops, including constant attention to your command of the language. How does it feel to be judged? :)

I never brought up language issues, that is your hang-up and a distraction from my point. Further, if you think everyone isn't judged, then you are just loopy.

> More importantly, why would you expect more from a foreign applicant that from a local?

Because that is the stated legal purpose of the H1B program. It says that H1B workers have skills that the local programmers do not.

> The point is there shouldn't be discrimination, in either way.

In personal dealings, here we are talking about a government's responsibility to its citizens.

> H1-Bs are for specialty occupations that are in high demand to begin with.

If Disney decides to fire all its IT workers and replace them with contracted H1Bs then I would say the law failed. The purpose of the law is to fill knowledge gaps not add labor to the market.

> Not sure what encourages you to be more catholic than the Pope.

The law states the purpose.

[saool]

Your whole premise is, and I quote, "H1B is supposed to have skills that the local workers don't and thus should be worth the extra money."

That's false. I think you are mistaken about what an H1-B visa is: it's a temporary, non-immigrant visa that allows people with specialty occupations (and thus in high demand) to work for 6 years in the States.

The skill condition (as determined by a LCA application) to get one is not that you should have extraordinary skills the locals don't (That would be an O-1 visa, or an EB-1), but rather that you have the skills and the degree, and that your employer is willing to compensate you as well as they would compensate a local.

If you don't believe me, here's a link to USCIS: http://www.uscis.gov/eir/visa-guide/h-1b-specialty-occupatio...

I won't deny that there's abuse by big corporations using H1-Bs to hire people that look like seniors but are really junior in skill, but it's cause they skirt the law and have gotten away with it so far. I see no sanctions to Infosys or Tata for selling people with say, Junior Engineer skill as Seniors, but what I see lots of hate towards the H1-B workers. If Disney fired the senior IT guys and replaced them with recent graduates, told them to train them, it would be the exact same situation, only we wouldn't be hearing "they took our jobs".

So as with everything in this country, the suits fuck the little guy over and the little guy blames the neighbor.

[protomyth]

"That's false. I think you are mistaken about what an H1-B visa is:"

No, you do not understand the H-1B http://www.dol.gov/whd/immigration/h1b.htm

"The intent of the H-1B provisions is to help employers who cannot otherwise obtain needed business skills and abilities from the U.S. workforce by authorizing the temporary employment of qualified individuals who are not otherwise authorized to work in the United States."

You looked at only the foreign worker part and not the American company part.