[Nadya]

>who by-and-large

I didn't say that all were, I said most are. You're agreeing with me. If you're going to be pedantic make sure you're actually attacking what I said and not a strawman you set up.

A small minority of obese people have a glandular problem. Some are from childhood obesity and/or have a hormonal imbalance that affects metabolism. My sympathies go to those people; but most fat people are fat because they have poor diets and live sedentary lifestyles and so many of them pull the gland/hormone/not-my-fault card that the legitimate cases are ignored. You can blame lazy fat people for the perceived "delegitimization" of those (legitimate) excuses.

Think of it as 'The Boy Who Cried Wolf'. The more people who claim it is outside of their control, who are lying, when someone finally makes the claim and it is true - they are ignored - because of the liars.

[Jdoemk2]

Sorry for the late reply.

I'm just saying I don't think most fat people act the victim based on my observations, I think you're overstating the amount that do.

[Nadya]

Hm? I don't think I made any claim that 'most fat people act the victim", only that the ones that do ruin it for everyone else because the large majority of the ones who make excuses are lying . If there wasn't some significant number of people who make these excuses - there wouldn't be jokes around the concept.

I think there's a case of miscommunication somewhere. I'm not saying most fat people are lying - but that most fat people who are making excuses are lying. Most fat people I know own up that it's their poor diet/lack of exercise/love of food that is the reason they are fat. However most people claiming that it is their genetics are typically lying. Which is why we have tasteless jokes around the idea. [0].

Quick disclaimer: an excuse can be legitimate and someone "making excuses" could have a legitimate excuse. Some do, but most people who attempt to use those excuses are lying. That is my claim and is what I recognize to be the majority opinion and the majority result.

[0] Tasteless joke http://i.imgur.com/dl09rDa.png

[Jdoemk2]

Yeah, I just don't observe that many people keeping their genetics in the fridge like that woman. Just from the fat people I meet, I've heard very few pull the victim card. I think it's overblown how many fat people do act like that, not a "significant number" in my opinion. Maybe it depends on the place/culture, but I don't see it