[emp_zealoth]

Please, go on a tour around Norway, then visit Trondheim (still in Norway) Usually you can leave whatever you want anywhere in Norway (for e.g. we did leave our motorcycles with keys in the ignition, i personally left my midrange helmet on a bench overnight, oops) In Trondheim? Everything is nailed to the ground, there are metal bars and comical locks everywhere - the difference? Trondheim ended with a huge group of gypsies a few years back. Also, look at the hotpots of crime in Norway

[Intermernet]

Yes, it's obviously "the gypsies". No other socio-economic factors could come into play at all here.

According to Wikipedia, It's a student town (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trondheim#Student_culture) with over 20% of the population being students. Why don't you blame them as easily as the gypsies?

[emp_zealoth]

Mainly because when we visited it wad the only gypsy town, there are other student towns in Norway. And it wasn't unsafe in a student way - it was plagued by horrible levels of theft - hence the ubiquitous fortifications and locks - something that one can hardly blame pn students (at that scale) Ive seen gypsies try to steal with my own bloody eyes, i guess that makes me a racist then...

There is a difference in bellowing "let's hurt anyone we don't like" and "we probably should address the real world"

Suppression of discussion serves no one. In Poland we accepted some chechens, romans, etc. A lot of them refuse to learn even the basics of reading or writing, they are completely dysfunctional on most basic of the levels, they periodically have a decent housing provided for freez which then they utterly ruin, because they now all it takes is to protest they "inhumam treatment" to have it all cleaned out and repaired, for free. They refuse to be a part of local society, the police, social services, etc all alarm about tgeurt utter lack of will to integrate, or even be functional. And every time someone tries to talk about it, a slew of "politically correct" media kills any meaningful discussion

My city is one of most racist, and i am deeply ashamed when there is an attack, be it verbal or physical, on an innocent human.