[Dain42]

I have to support an elementary school full of Macs, and Yosemite has been my ongoing nightmare. (Well, that and the bad joke known as OS X Server.) I won't update during the year for obvious reasons, but I'm still trying to decide whether or not I'm going to have to fragment my environment again (after just getting it all together with 10.9, finally). The incentive from Apple is very strong to install 10.10, but it just runs like utter garbage on all our older machines. And we can't run out and buy new ones whenever they feel like killing all hardware more than about 3 or 4 years old.

I'm still trying to convince people that our younger kids can learn just fine using the web browser on Windows and that we're overpaying money for these Macs (about double what we'd pay for a comparable Windows machine from our vendors) and wasting our tight budget. But there are a few people who just will not let them go. It's a real PITA running this mixed environment without another person to do sys/net admin stuff, or someone to handle more front-line support.

At this point, I'd take Apple just putting a stop to releasing these updates for iOS and OS X out at the beginning of the school year. It would be so much better if they'd do it about 4 months earlier.

[addandsubtract]

>The incentive from Apple is very strong to install 10.10

And what incentive is that? Unless you need to latest Xcode to develop iOS apps, I don't see a reason to use Yosemite. I, for one, am happy to have stayed on 10.9 and will stick with it until El Capitan proves to be an "upgrade".

[wwweston]

> And what incentive is that?

For one thing, they won't sell you Mavericks anymore. If you didn't buy it while it was out, it is simply unavailable for you to purchase. They obviously could sell it to you, but they won't. It's a matter of intentional policy to make sure you don't buy in at any point earlier than the current one.

(Take that in, BTW. That means someone at Apple made the judgment that it is literally more important that you have their latest than it is for everyone to have a stable, reliable OS.)

[bornabox]

Ah come on. Yosemite is not a stable, reliable OS? That's just hyperbole... Running 10.10.3 on half a dozen machines, mostly older ones, and it's stable, reliable and working just fine. MBPro's, Mac Mini's, MBAir, iMac.

[chiph]

Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not ...

Overall OS stability has gone down with Yosemite. I have to restart far more often than I should -- usually after coming out of sleep mode.

[doublextremevil]

Apple refuses to fix a critical security vulnerability[0] in non-Yosemite versions of OS X

[0]https://truesecdev.wordpress.com/2015/04/09/hidden-backdoor-...

[hutattedonmyarm]

> it just runs like utter garbage on all our older machines. interesting, it runs better on my dads 2011 11" MBA than on my 2013 13" rMBP, probably due to the retina display