[iancackett]

That's a great point, and one of the reasons I was originally taught it isn't "engineering", strictly. I think we do a lot of what counts as engineering. But, you're right, we aren't formally certified as an engineer. Perhaps that (and the required rigour) will change.

[walshemj]

It depends you can jump trough the hoops to get Ceng status but the one of the problems is the BCS/IEEE keep changing the goal posts for those going the industry experience route

The other bigger elephant is what in it for me what have the BCS / IEEE actually done anything to improve the status of engineers.

In the UK Jeremy Clarkson's 1 hour documentary on Brunel has probably done more for the profile of engineers than the IEEE has done in the last 25 years.