[Animats]

I keep turning all that stuff off, and wonder if I missed anything. I don't want Firefox "social integration". I don't want "Pocket" in the browser. I don't want "Hello" snooping on my contact information. I don't want Yahoo (Yahoo? They just resell Bing) as the search provider.

Someone may have to fork Firefox. It's still open source, more or less.

[dblohm7]

Hello snooping on your contact information? Where on earth did you get that idea from?

[Animats]

From the Mozilla web site. It's difficult to find, though.

Mozilla has a Firefox Hello Terms of Service:

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal/terms/firefox-hell...

which claims to link to the Firefox Hello privacy terms, but actually links to the main Mozilla privacy page:

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/

which, in a sidebar, links to the Firefox Hello privacy policy:

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox-hello/

which links to the TokBox privacy policy:

https://tokbox.com/support/privacy-policy

which says:

"We use the information we collect from you in the following ways: ... To organize and carry out TokBox’s marketing or promotional operations/offers, contests, games and similar events."

One of Hello's basic functions, at least in its mobile forms, is to cross-reference your phone contacts and Facebook contacts. See "Review: “Hello” Facebook Dialer, Bye to Your Privacy?"[1]

So, yes, it snoops on your contact information.

[1] http://www.xda-developers.com/review-hello-facebook-dialer-b...

[bbubble]

Hello Facebook Dialer is not Firefox Hello, though.

[ploxiln]

He probably just assumed it did, like all other chat services.

Whether it does or doesn't, if it's not installed, then you don't need to worry about it. I'm quite annoyed that firefox is adding more cruft, more buttons, more features. Just like phones and operating systems, I now first go to the hidden places necessary to turn off apps/buttons/features that aren't needed and needlessly clutter and the interface, slow down the system, and cause unexpected issues. Then I add the extensions required to get the power-user settings/tweaks which actually should be there.

It is VERY FRUSTRATING that the trend is solidly in the direction of removing "scary" relevant settings and adding crap features, and in many areas, there is no longer a good option for people like me who know what the fuck they're doing. Modern "products" waste more and more of my time.

[glass-]

> I don't want Yahoo (Yahoo? They just resell Bing) as the search provider.

I don't want Google as the search provider, and you'll find many people who don't want Bing or DuckDuckGo as the search provider. That doesn't leave many options.

[foobargarply]

I'm switching to IceCat. It's a GNU maintained fork, but is a few versions behind. I trust GNU more than Mozilla, but you still have to trust Mozilla to some extent if you use any Firefox fork.