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by marcus_holmes 4034 days ago
OK, yeah, I don't agree with your basic premises at all then. I read all these points the first time and was left with "and the problem is what?"

People who are good at writing educational materials need to be paid to do this, because it's hard and takes a long time. I don't see any possible objection to this.

Since money and social "buzz" follow the interest of many people, it seems obvious to me that the educational resources should be focused on those areas instead of periphery areas that few people are interested in.

Other people have said this, but favouring people with good communication skills in the job market is part of a functioning meritocracy.

The reason for the lack of diversity has very little to do with educational resources available on the internet and much more to do with cultural attitudes in the West. SE Asian countries have much greater participation by women and they use the same teaching resources.

I smell a political ideology being thinly justified by some talking points here. But I'm open to being wrong...

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> People who are good at writing educational materials need to be paid to do this, because it's hard and takes a long time. I don't see any possible objection to this.

I have been paid to do this for five years with practicingruby.com, without ever relying on commercial support. It's 100% reader funded and reader focused, and it's the largest open-access library of Ruby-related articles you'll find in the world.

> Since money and social "buzz" follow the interest of many people, it seems obvious to me that the educational resources should be focused on those areas instead of periphery areas that few people are interested in.

Everything that is popular and commonplace now was a sparsely populated frontier before. Some folks need to venture into that territory now so that we all benefit from their explorations in the future. It would be nice to keep them well supported, if we want to maximize the benefits we'll reap in the future.

> Other people have said this, but favouring people with good communication skills in the job market is part of a functioning meritocracy.

Helping people with good ideas and a good work ethic is a job we can and should do if we possess the means to do so. The exception may not prove the rule, but I suppose you can say that my communication skills are adequate given that this is my essay we're discussing on the HN front page.

The only way I got to where I am was through support of mentors and colleagues who had helped me in the early 2000s, when free and open source software was predominantly a hobbyist activity and not a commercial activity. There was at that time a real sense of doing things for the common good, rather than just to serve your own interests.

And as I've said before: we rank on the first page at Practicing Ruby for the google search term "infrastructure automation", we're on the first page for "actor model", first page for "Law of Demeter", etc. Several of the contributed articles we've managed to drive so much traffic to are by people who consider themselves intermediate developers, and amateur writers. I've used the money from my paying supporters to: pay contributors for their work, help them edit, revise, and polish their work, and reach a larger audience than they would have on their own. This model does work! It's just hard to sustain because it's so foreign to most people.

I won't even entertain your comments about the lack of diversity, because it reveals your ignorance on the topic, and lack of concern.

I run the local RailsGirls event here
If that's the case, I'm curious to hear your thoughts on two things:

1) If you don't think that gender diversity is strongly related to education, why are you participating in a group that's designed specifically to address that problem?

2) Are there not qualified female candidates for running RailsGirls in your area? If not, why do you think that's the case?

I got halfway through writing a reply and then the thought struck me "why am I wasting my time arguing with someone on the internet?"

You're doing good work, keep it up, have a great life.