[michaelbuddy]

> And yes, that does happen. A lot.

You don't seem to have a grasp of the real world here. What actually happens is that people will take credit or get credit from other's ideas regardless of gender. That's what happens a lot. It's only your own bias that you think it's noticeably women being the victims. Welcome to the world of equal opportunity.

[BlackAura]

And I should believe you, rather than the women to whom this happens all the time, because... why?

[skissane]

I just asked my partner if this ever happened to her. She told me that it did once, but it was a female colleague who did it to her, not a man. I asked her if a man ever did it to her, she said she couldn't remember that ever occurring.

[morpheous]

Drawing conclusions from a sample size of 1. Never a good practise

[skissane]

I didn't draw any conclusions, I just shared my partner's experiences without any further comment.

I don't doubt some women have had the experience BlackAura is referring to. But I don't believe it is universal either, since my partner does not report having that experience. As to what percentage of women have experienced this: I don't know, and no one in this conversation has produced an answer to that question.

[smallworld]

The fact that your partner does not report having that experience does not literally mean that she has not had that experience. There are several possible reasons for this, and I do not want you to think I am passing judgement, but your statement is not convincing on its own.

I have watched this happen to women who were oblivious - who behave as though men stealing women's ideas is the proper way of reality, and yet they will loudly voice an objection when a woman does the same.

[skissane]

I shared with her your theory, and she does not believe it is true in her case. I don't doubt that it happened in the cases you observed, but that gives me no reason to doubt her statement that it didn't happen to her. I wasn't there for the vast majority of her working life, you weren't there for any of it, she was - I think she is a much more of an authority on her own life experiences than you or I are. And, who should I believe: you, or the mother of my son?