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by rilita 4032 days ago
It's hardly untraceable. There are only 1000 ghost gunner mills in the country. It is feasible that they are all being tracked by the USPS. Fedex and UPS refuse to mail them... That means the government likely knows where each was sent, and has a name too to go with the location.

There is a paper trail associated with being able to receive such a heavy thing in the mail ( you'd have to send it to a location you control / own / rent etc )

Suppose you buy the machine, build your own gun, use it for some bad purpose. If the gun was ever found, it could likely be traced back to you. How many people have guns created with the ghost gunner machine? Not many. Can you tell a ghost gunner cut lower from other methods? Yes.

The whole thing is just a publicity stunt. When there is a local shop in a major city where I can go in and rent a ghost gunner machine for a day, in cash, providing nothing but a large deposit to guarantee I bring it back, then and only then can such things really be untraceable.
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lmm 4032 days ago
> When there is a local shop in a major city where I can go in and rent a ghost gunner machine for a day, in cash, providing nothing but a large deposit to guarantee I bring it back, then and only then can such things really be untraceable.

Wired has the machine, they could start running such a service tomorrow if they wanted to. I don't see any substantial barriers to it.

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rilita 4031 days ago
Seems kind of doubtful they would be willing. The way his description reads it's like he is nervous that he created a gun. Why not keep it? He owned it... just lock it up?

Plus that is in San Francisco. I live on the opposite coast. I won't be over there for a while.

I was searching online to see if renting one of these things is legal. I found at least one person stating that it has been said officially by the feds that renting one of these would be considering "manufacturing". I can't see how, but that is what was said.

I doubt Wired wants to get into the middle of that. Perhaps the NRA might, or the ACLU, but not Wired.

Really both the NRA and ACLU should both buy like 50 of these things and rent them out. That would be interesting.

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